Groveinthedark 👎🏽

Rollercoaster

Gold Member
Feedback: +43 / =0 / -0
Joined
May 19, 2018
Messages
484
I Posted a knife for sale. groveinthedark groveinthedark claimed it. Has not contacted me since, despite reading the messages.

Typically I don’t care about folks like this, ignore them and move on. But earlier this summer I had another zaan posted and this clown found it necessary to harass me about the price I listed it for.

At this time I just want to see if he has the integrity to say something or continue to conduct himself like an adolescent.
 
Groveinthedark's last activity was his message to you. I sure hope something hasn't happened to him or someone he loves. I'm saying a prayer for him now.

At this time I just want to see if he has the integrity to say something or continue to conduct himself like an adolescent.

Just wow.
 
I Posted a knife for sale. groveinthedark groveinthedark claimed it. Has not contacted me since, despite reading the messages.

Typically I don’t care about folks like this, ignore them and move on. But earlier this summer I had another zaan posted and this clown found it necessary to harass me about the price I listed it for.

At this time I just want to see if he has the integrity to say something or continue to conduct himself like an adolescent.
I appreciate the heads up on flaky people. Next time, when someone harasses you, put them on your ignore list and never see anything they post again. It is a beautiful thing. No PMs either. Speaking of that, did he message you privately after claiming the knife?
 
I absolutely understand if there’s a larger issue he has to deal with, but communicate with me. If he made a mistake, he didn’t want it, he doesn’t like me, he needed more time, whatever the case.. just communicate.

I appreciate the heads up on flaky people. Next time, when someone harasses you, put them on your ignore list and never see anything they post again. It is a beautiful thing. No PMs either. Speaking of that, did he message you privately after claiming the knife?
No. His communication with me was “which one.” I’ll assume it was because I messaged him on the older thread that he initially harassed me on. I followed up with a new thread and linked the sales post. I don’t care for drama. He’s ignored. Zaan is sold. I’m over it.
 
I appreciate the heads up on flaky people. Next time, when someone harasses you, put them on your ignore list and never see anything they post again. It is a beautiful thing. No PMs either. Speaking of that, did he message you privately after claiming the knife?
Yes but “ignore” only works if you resist the temptation to click “show ignored content” 😉
 
I absolutely understand if there’s a larger issue he has to deal with, but communicate with me. If he made a mistake, he didn’t want it, he doesn’t like me, he needed more time, whatever the case.. just communicate.


No. His communication with me was “which one.” I’ll assume it was because I messaged him on the older thread that he initially harassed me on. I followed up with a new thread and linked the sales post. I don’t care for drama. He’s ignored. Zaan is sold. I’m over it.
I see. So he claimed the knife without also sending a PM for payment details. Some people just don't know how to act. The ignore feature is great for, once these individuals are identified, to never have to see anything from them again! I somewhat consider it good fortune to have these people point themselves out before you enter into a transaction with them. Ignore, ignore ignore!
 
Groveinthedark has no BFs activity since that day. How many will assume he's "flaky" as a result of OP dragging his name through the mud without providing evidence?

earlier this summer I had another zaan posted and this clown found it necessary to harass me about the price I listed it for.
thread that he initially harassed me on.

I looked for a thread including anything that could be interpreted as harassment, and found nothing. And the only Zaan I found from OP in the summer doesn't even have a reply from groveinthedark groveinthedark . Makes this entire thread seem completely unfounded and unjust.

At this time I just want to see if he has the integrity to say something or continue to conduct himself like an adolescent.

Why did I say "just wow" to this? Because he provided no evidence or specifics, and lobbed insults at a man he had no way to know wasn't dealing with potential emergencies or other life changing issues, and instead went immediately to assuming it was spite directed at him. All of which seems like someone with integrity would NOT do. If anyone in this thread should be on ignore, so far the evidence suggests it is Rollercoaster Rollercoaster .
 
I looked for a thread including anything that could be interpreted as harassment, and found nothing. And the only Zaan I found from OP in the summer doesn't even have a reply from groveinthedark groveinthedark . Makes this entire thread seem completely unfounded and unjust.
If the comments about his pricing were made in the thread, they would have been removed by the moderators (not sure if your moderator capabilities extend beyond your own subforum, what is done with such posts on this site, or how much of a trail is left... I've got no behind the scenes experience with the XenForo platform). They also could have been private messages. Was the interaction actually harassment? Who knows...but it was apparently enough to leave a bad taste in Rollercoaster Rollercoaster 's mouth.
 
Then he can clarify and provide evidence. Because otherwise this just looks like libel.
 
Poor form David Mary David Mary . To clear things up, it was a “conversation” and not a “thread.” Regardless, you would assume a moderator with you “experience” would do some cleaner investigative work before accusing me of libel and stating I should be ignored.

Let’s be clear, groveinthedark groveinthedark has yet to respond to this thread or any of our conversations. He has, however, been active on the board since the day he claimed the knife for sale. He has viewed the messages I’ve sent him and has ignored them. Interestingly enough he also attempted to claim 1 other knife and jump in line on another sales thread that same day.
2DB5BCC7-29B0-4624-B039-1D2608232BC1.jpeg
I don’t have access to the “time stamps” but I remember he claimed the other zaan 1 minute before claiming the one on my thread.

Now, I don’t know about the folks that buy from you David Mary David Mary , however in my limited experience when you claim a knife on a thread, it’s customary to contact the seller in a timely fashion. This never happened. I contacted him. He viewed the message (which I can’t prove since the time stamp shows only the most recent view), however didn’t respond.

But let’s rewind to July, when he contacted me for another knife I was selling. He sent me a low ball offer, I said no, and he contacted me again and again after I had asked him to stop. Regardless of what people may say, contacting someone after they tell you to leave them alone is considered “harassment.”
06E29151-2B31-466A-AB96-084C97E8ACA9.jpegB8C06943-1678-4DB9-A10F-CB477215702C.jpeg460CFF89-EA28-472F-9DD6-DFD3CB84377A.jpeg

So 2 months pass and as I’m looking through my messages I stumble upon my old chat with groveinthedark groveinthedark . At the time I had an Impinda for sale and I thought maybe that was more in his wheelhouse for price. So I contacted him and asked him if he wanted it. Short conversation, ended amicably, no harm.

On 10/20 I put the zaan up for sale. He claimed it and never contacted me. Given my history with him I contacted him and asked if he really wanted the knife. Despite viewing the message, he never responded in a timely fashion.
1 day later he finally responded to me “which one?” I assume this was because I messaged him on the same initial thread that was created in July. So I promptly responded to him, linked him to the thread from the previous day that he claimed the knife, and received nothing/no response in return. Meanwhile, the time stamps show that he viewed the message. I also created a new message, to avoid confusion. He viewed that thread as well, and never responded.


9DA54021-702A-4C50-A034-A9E6FAD9330E.jpeg1208DA0E-50FF-4D2F-AB01-BC0676BE65A5.jpeg3FC1F66A-C1B6-46D8-AD1B-CFA19F494595.jpeg41144C1A-DCD9-4ABD-A5BA-D93FA63FF8C6.jpeg

If there was an emergency I would completely understand. If he doesn’t like me or had changed his mind, I understand. But there was NO COMMUNICATION DESPITE HIM BEING ACTIVE ON THE BOARD.

David Mary David Mary I wouldn’t be offended if you ignored me on the buy/sell front. No problem for me. But there’s no reason for members with common sense to heed your advice. This week I was a buyer and seller on this platform. Since I can’t post more than 10 images on this thread, please feel free to check my latest feedback from 10/25.

Keep it classy folks.
 

Attachments

  • 5D3629CC-EBE2-43A5-B7E6-25FF7B0AE389.jpeg
    5D3629CC-EBE2-43A5-B7E6-25FF7B0AE389.jpeg
    99.1 KB · Views: 8
Last edited:
I wrote this last message on my phone, so there’s some double images that shouldn’t be here. If I’m missing something, please don’t hesitate to ask David Mary David Mary . I’ll provide you with whatever “proof” you need ;)
 
Rollercoaster Rollercoaster

I noticed that you left negative feedback for groveinthedark groveinthedark , while I can understand your frustration that feedback will be deleted as no transaction took place.

From the Exchange rules.

If a deal did not happen, there is no iTrader Feedback to leave. Sorry if you were inconvenienced, but life is full of disappointments. As long as you're not out any items or money hasn't changed hands, move along.
 
Rollercoaster Rollercoaster

I noticed that you left negative feedback for groveinthedark groveinthedark , while I can understand your frustration that feedback will be deleted as no transaction took place.

From the Exchange rules.

If a deal did not happen, there is no iTrader Feedback to leave. Sorry if you were inconvenienced, but life is full of disappointments. As long as you're not out any items or money hasn't changed hands, move along.
That’s fine. This thread exist. Yes, I was frustrated due to the past events, but it’s behind me. Looking forward to not having re-visit this again.
 
Back
Top