Guillotine tool "how to"

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Hi

I have been wanting and needing a Guillotine tool for a long time and decided I wanted to make it my self and do a "how to" while I made it.

This tool is used instead of a top and bottom tool for the hardy hole and is also a kind of spring fuller and can be used in knife making, sword making and general blacksmithing.
It is the blacksmiths 3th. hand and allows you to make fullers and other thing and still work alone and not need help to do some things I find that very good since I most of the time work alone and with no one to help me.

I hope this helps some one to make one for them self and maybe improve the design.

First before doing any of this make sure you use the right safety equipment while working, all tools and power tool are dangerous to use if used in a wrong way and you follow this How yo on your own risk and all responsibility is your own. stay safe.

needed tools:
a hacksaw
metal file
clamps
welder (MIG, ARC or TIG I used MIG for this)
6 and 8mm metal drills and a drilling machine
small hammer and a rule
Nice to have:
drill press
angle grinder grinding and cutting disks

steel needed
I have used 10mm mild steel plate to make the main body from, any thing can be used I recommend using something a bit thick as it will make it more stable.
here is a pic of the pieces
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The sides are cut on a band saw and milled out in side the "C"

here is a pic of the drawing I made in autocad for it
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the two side pieces showed above can also be cut out with a anglegrinder
6 pieces of 40x80mm for spacers between the sides
a piece of 25x100x150 for the bottom it is important that this is made of some thing thick and heavy since this is the part that takes all of the impact from the hits.
a piece of 25mm square pipe 45mm long to hold the spring
a piece of 6mm round 25mm long for the bottom of the square pipe so the spring don't fall out
another piece of 6mm round 52mm long for inserting in the top tool and over the spring so it can lift the tool up after a hit. (I used stainless 316 as I had that in 6mm but any thing will do.)
steel for the tools I made from 5160 spring steel it is not important that it is a hardnable steel if you only are going to use it for hot metal, but I like to harden mine. the top pieces is 15x79x100mm
the bottom part 15x79x55mm
they are only 79m wide so that they has a loss fit and don't jam.
and a spring that will fit inside that square pipe that is just so strong that it will lift the top tool but not throw it out of the Guillotine.

It is important to clamp the pieces together before welding it. I use a small hammer for lightly hitting the pieces in the right place after clamping it in place so that the sides are 100% even.
and when you weld it up remember to follow the same order to do so that I show here or you might end up trapping in some sides and get a hard time reaching them latter on.
here are some pics and I'll explain along the way
before welding any thing up it is important to put a spacer between the sides in the top so that they don't get bent or twisted when welding in the bottom.

here are the sides and some spacers clamped up to get the right wide between the sides when I weld them to the thick bottom plate.
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next I have clamped up the two spacers on each side of the bottom tool and put in some cardboard or folded paper to get a loss fit when changing the tools
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and then welded in the spacer in the back
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and then I clamped up the top spacers with the top tool and some cardboard between to also get a loss fit here
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I also clamped the tool together to get em to hit
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and then weld up the from spacer and take out the spacer behind the tool "Dies" and drill a 8mm hole 14mm from the bottom of the plate and in the centre from the sides and with a hack saw cut out a groove and file a bit to make it even this is for the 6mm round in the top tool"dies" to top of the spring
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next I clamp it all up as before with cardboard and weld it up
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the I take the 45mm long square pipe and to the same thing to also make a groove in one of the sides
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more in part 2. (due to the limit on how many pics in one post..)
 
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Part 2 ..

then weld the 25mm long 6mm piece in the middle on the bottom end of the square pipe it can also be a thin plate piece but a round stick is better since it will allow dust scale and such to fall down and not "cluck" the spring so it wont work.
here is it with the spring inside
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then I clamped it the the inside of the spacer in the top and make sure the two grooves "holes" are align with each other so the stick can slide in it easily.. and then weld it up
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and then in the top tool "dies" I in the middle from the sides and 55mm from the bottom drilled a 6mm hole and put in the 45mm long round 6mm piece
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Then I welded in the last piece on the back shown here
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and then we are done you can grind the welds away if you don't want them or let them be, I let them be I think they look cool and I will have it painted when I get some paint so that it don't rust.
and drill some holes in the bottom plate and mount it on a stump as I will do when I get the time or weld on piece of square stock so that it can fit in the hardy hole of a piece of plate so that it can be clamped it a vice.
her are pics of it done
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The tools "dies" top and bottom can be changed and many of them made in different shapes for different jobs I use a set of half round and set of square and will get one made for cutting and with the bottom tool "dies" made of copper or brass

I hope that this can be of help to some

and feel free to post any Questions you may have about this or things you don't understand or want explained more or some pics of different parts or close up pics of anything. I will try to help out in any way I can.

This "how to" have I posted on British Blades, bladesforums, Iforgeiron and Jerzeedevil.

And to the Mods/Admins feel free to move this post to a "how to" or tutorial place if you find it good enough

and I give you the right to download the images and text here and use it as you wish and give it around to others who might need it but if you do so then please mention my name

Regards Daniel CL (DC)

P.S. will add pics of it in work with hot steel next weekend.
 
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Nicely done, looks like something Nick Whirler would do. My guillotine is a lot simpler and looks like a football goal post.
 
Looks nice how does it work? I want to see some hot steel through it. Great work but show some action with it.
 
thanks for the replies :) i have made the design from many different ones i have looked at all over the net might have looked at Nicks to not sure..

Bruce i will show some pic with hot steel in later on i don't have time to light the forge since i am going back to the army base soon.

DC
 
It's very nice of you to share your work. I want to build one someday so this goes in the "Knifemaking Archive". Of course mine will be a lot uglier.

Thanks

Patrice
 
DC, I was saying it looked like something Nick would build because he's an engineer and makes things very solid, perhaps too solid :p It's a compliment. :thumbup:
 
DC, I was saying it looked like something Nick would build because he's an engineer and makes things very solid, perhaps too solid :p It's a compliment. :thumbup:
:) Thanks
well i like all the stuff i work with except my women to be solid, heavy and strongly build :)

DC
 
Dc thanks very much for the "how to", I will make one just like it!!! I really like the design, And hey, nothing wrong with a solid,strongly built woman, Thats where it at brother,LOL
 
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