Gun selling question

[jdm61]

My understandings that even though the Swedes are not the preferred G98 action, they, like the Argentines, were built to such a ridiculously high "sporting rifle" standard, you just HAVE to have one at some point in your life. It also helps that they are chambered in what many consider a damn near perfect cartridge. So how freaking expensive are the 40,000 that were made in the initial run at Oberndorf from 1895-1900 before Carl Gustav took over production?

 

[Jhansenak47]

My understandings that even though the Swedes are not the preferred G98 action,

That would make sense considering the Swedes are not based on the 98 action. Everything before the 98 is considered a small ring mauser. The 91, 93, 94, 95, 96 aren't considered to be as strong (mostly because of bad QC this doesn't apply to Swedish and German rifles) and require a different stock inlet to work. The 98 is easier to find parts and aftermarket accessories for.

 

[jdm61]

That would make sense considering the Swedes are not based on the 98 action. Everything before the 98 is considered a small ring mauser. The 91, 93, 94, 95, 96 aren't considered to be as strong (mostly because of bad QC this doesn't apply to Swedish and German rifles) and require a different stock inlet to work. The 98 is easier to find parts and aftermarket accessories for.

Perfect for the wonderful cartridge that it was designed for and as the 6.5 x 55 has become a bit of a darling of the sporting set on both side of the pond, you idon'thave to rechamber a Swede. The big "safety" differences between the small ring and the 98 is the third locking lug and the blow off feature.

 

[22-rimfire]

Hope you do real well with the rifle. I have just never really been attracted to the military rifle. I remember years ago things selling for $20 each.

 

[UffDa]

Hope you do real well with the rifle. I have just never really been attracted to the military rifle. I remember years ago things selling for $20 each.

That's why so many were bubbasized. No one could ever imagine that a Mauser 98K or a 1903 Springfield would ever sell for over $1000

 

[rbmcmjr]

My understandings that even though the Swedes are not the preferred G98 action, they, like the Argentines, were built to such a ridiculously high "sporting rifle" standard, you just HAVE to have one at some point in your life. It also helps that they are chambered in what many consider a damn near perfect cartridge. So how freaking expensive are the 40,000 that were made in the initial run at Oberndorf from 1895-1900 before Carl Gustav took over production?

I like the Swedes but I love the '91 Argentine model. As you said, they were assembled and fitted to a ridiculously high standard. The 7.65 isn't too shabby a performer, either. And, the early ones are, by definition, not firearms and thus completely unregulated. If that matters to you.

 

[jdm61]

My brother's is or was 1909/1910 DWM Berlin made, so it was a real live firearm by God. He ended up consigning it for a fair split with a customer of our family business who knew what he had in hand and absolutely raved about the condition. he said that he had never handled one this nice. Pristine ones were not that uncommon in 1989, but apparently they are a bit more scarce in 2017. I wonder how many of those really clean infantry ended as $10,000+ custom rifles? I have seen a fair number in magazines and on line over the last 25 years. A number of the super clean original spec Berlin Argentines I see now are the carbines. Somebody had the more rare engineer carbine on Gun Trader the other day and they were asking $1700.

 

[jdm61]

That's why so many were bubbasized. No one could ever imagine that a Mauser 98K or a 1903 Springfield would ever sell for over $1000

Yeah. See my comment about that Model 1909 carbine. There are still some unicorns out there. IIRC, the James Julia company was auctioning off a small batch of REAL military sniper rifles with provenance a while back. I bet those went for real money. But if you think about it, those 1909's got dumped on the US market on a couple of occasions. The last batch,whic is the one that my brothers gun was in, had a bunch that were all original with the crew still intact and the action still in its original white color. That shipment got some coverage in the gun press, but like i said, a lotto them still ended up with custom makers. I read a few years ago that if you wanted to build that action today the way DWM did with old school machine tools in 1909 to that level of mechanical precision and fit and finish it might cost as much as $4000!!!!if you think about it, that is in the ballpark of what some modern hand built custom actions go for, so that makes sense.think about the Winchester Model 54/70. That was basically an easier to manufacture and slightly updated Mauser/Springfield design. And in the end, it was still too expensive to build, at least for a slightly higher end mass production hunting rifle sold at Western Auto stores and other such places.

 

[UffDa]

I bought an Enfield No.4 MK I(T) Sniper Rifle around 1969 or '70 for about $75. I sold it a few years later for $150. I still kick myself in the butt when I think about it.

If you can find one these days with a matching scope, expect to pay around $2500 and up.

 

[GetToThePoint]

Based on where you live, Gunbroker FLL to FLL or FTF in your home state at a gunshop. May go gunbroker route ether way though to save hassle and just FLL-FLL it. I think it's a C&R which opens up who can buy (C&R FLL) and who you can ship it too, so may want to research that as well.

I see some sellers on Gunbroker say they are not FFLs but will ship to your FFL. How does that work? Do only certain FFLs accept out-of-state transfers from individuals? (And if so, why?)