Guy cuts his finger.....blames the Shallot, I'm not buying it

jonnymac44

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Here is a youtube link. Some guy posts a vid of his cut finger with a bloody Shallot in the background warning people that framelocks aren't safe. He doesn't give any details about how it happened, just shows the knife and the blood. I could be a skeptic, but I think user error probably played a big part in this slicing! Don't be scared fellas, your framelocks are good knives........especially your Shallots. I know a thing or two about Shallots:D

Here's the linky:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RD094v1-1U&NR=1&feature=fvwp
 
I guess he could have done that... I dunno.

But I seriously doubt it unless he was doing something with the knife he wasn't supposed to be doing like prying or twisting. Look at the wound; I don't think the lock failed, I think his hand slipped up on the knife blade. I fooled around with my Shallot and tried to figure out how to position the knife to make that kind of wound and something isn't right. Worse, I tried to match up the location of the cutting area (assuming that is what the blood on the knife is from) and it would take some pretty serious rotation to cut his finger that way.

Another note. When I have cut myself with my knives many times, and they never have that kind of blotching blood pattern. I looks to me like he dabbed blood on that particular location of the blade for dramatic effect.

Worse, having cut myself badly with other edged or power tools in my line of work, you don't "get the bleeding to stop" when you cut to the bone. You don't have wet blood without a ton of dried around the wound and on your hand. There is too much blood to handle on your own. A trip to the hospital is necessary if cut to the bone.

Maybe he posted that for his friends so he wouldn't look like he cut himself badly while goofing around.

Don't think it was a lock failure at all.

Robert
 
Old video, not worth giving the guy the views.

I always thought it was pretty fishy.

If the knife was sharp at all, there isn't much chance there would be blood on the blade. Most peoples reactions don't let the knife stay long enough to get bloody.
What the hell grip was he using to cut his finger there, and did that grip not squeeze the lock bar at all?

Not saying that he is, but the natural instinct for anyone that has used knives (or frame locks for that matter) for any length of time, would be to think he is a complete idiot.

I have a quite a few Shallots, and have never had any lock issues with them.
 
Agree 100%. That is not cut to the bone. Ive had worse cuts shaving. A complete drama queen to say it polite.:jerkit:
 
i think in the videos description, he blames lint for the failure if i recall correctly. either way i dont see how the lock could fail if hes holding the knife with a tight squeeze. User error is to blame for this paper cut.
 
jonnymac44 said:
Here is a youtube link. Some guy posts a vid of his cut finger with a bloody Shallot in the background warning people that framelocks aren't safe. He doesn't give any details about how it happened, just shows the knife and the blood. I could be a skeptic, but I think user error probably played a big part in this slicing! Don't be scared fellas, your framelocks are good knives........especially your Shallots. I know a thing or two about Shallots:D

Here's the linky:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RD094v1-1U&NR=1&feature=fvwp
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He obviously smeared blood on his blade for effect, which makes his statements dubious at best.:thumbdn: I have a shallot. I love the fit and finish, but I don't consider it a serious user due to its slick handle. I was thinking about using a drommel to deepen/create more jimping.
I have a question for you. I just aquired a second-hand LNIB Junk Yard Dog and the liner lock is very, very easy to slide over to the close position. It looks like it came from the factory like this. I was concerned that the blade might close while using. I'm a rightie and I think my hand would be pushing the liner lock towards the safe side of the frame when exerting pressure. There is a very deep choil and a massive flipper to help block the blade from closing on my finger, but it still makes me a little nervous. Any opinions would be appreciated.:)
 
I just tried to get the lock to fail on mine by pulling my index finger back on the lockbar and guess what? Didn't work. If i REALLY tried, i could get it to close but i can't imagine someone putting that much pressure on the lockbar.

And the fact that there is blood on the blade raises my interest. I have had a couple serious cuts in my day and none of them have left blood on the blade (unless it dripped on it) And he blames lint?:confused: What the hell.

:EDIT: Midnight flyer beat me to it:o.
 
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I saw this video a while ago. I've cut myself deeper while whittling. Sent the guy an offer to send me the defective knife and I'd send him a Buck 110, but no reply yet...
 
Is it just me or does that cut look not real? At any rate it wasn't a bad cut, a cut to the bone requires stitches and usually make a whole lot more blood, and it would be a gaping wound with the sides split apart.

However, I have seen a cut like that before, I once saw someone stab a tree with a slip joint and the resulting cut looked similar. :p
 
I've seen this video before if you look at the comments he says he did it while cutting his finger nails.
 
Agreed. That is not a cut to the bone. Your body will let you know how bad of a cut you've received. Also, Midnight Flyer and KneeDeep are correct I think: most of the serious cuts I've received which required stiches, we so bad that the blade was out before a large amount of blood could transfer to the blades surface.

Anyone else ever notice that when you cut yourself REALLY badly, theres that 1-2 second delay where you can see straight down into your skin, and then blood starts gushing?
 
David_Parker03 said:
Agreed. That is not a cut to the bone. Your body will let you know how bad of a cut you've received. Also, Midnight Flyer and KneeDeep are correct I think: most of the serious cuts I've received which required stiches, we so bad that the blade was out before a large amount of blood could transfer to the blades surface.
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I've only ever got blood on one of my knives once, and the cut was from a piece of fence wire, it poured out of my hand and soaked the inside of a CRKT I was using at the time, I think it still has little bits of dried blood in it, it stank for a long time.

Anyone else ever notice that when you cut yourself REALLY badly, theres that 1-2 second delay where you can see straight down into your skin, and then blood starts gushing?
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Only for a cut through smaller vessels, arteries bleed almost immediately. My guess would be the muscles contract around the cut as a direct response to the pain stimuli pinches off the vein until the muscles relax releasing that nice initial gush of blood followed by a nice steady flow.
 
In Scouts they make you learn knife safety and you have to get a Totin' chip card before you can carry a knife. In my troop whenever someone did something stupid with a knife they cut a corner off the card. You started out with one corner cut off already. After the 4 corners were cut you couldn't carry a knife until you went through knife safety again.

I think people who cut themselves and blame the knife need some knife safety education.
 
I've cut the tip of my thumb once that went from the front through the nail in the back. Didn't have a speck of blood on the blade:thumbup:.
 
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