h&r firearms

[yondering]

You could order a rifle and have them fit the shotgun barrel of your choice
P.S. If you deside to go this route i was told they will fit shot gun barrels to rifle recievers but not the other way arround even though the recievers are exactly the same. Federal law says that shot guns must have minimum barrel length of 18" some of the rifles are shorter

Mike that's exactly right but the reason isn't barrel length, it's strength of the reciever. The shotgun recievers (frames) aren't heat treated and aren't as strong as the rifles.

Honestly a short barreled 12ga pump gun with rifle sights and a smooth bore would do everything you need for survival. No need for a 22 barrel if you have shotgun slugs, unless you are trying to hit a rabbit or squirrel at long range, in which case you may need more than a 22 anyway.

If you really wanted a combo, I would opt for a NEF single shot 30-06 with an extra 12 gauge barrel. The 30-06 will take care of the big game, and can be downloaded for small animals. The 12 gauge would work for everything else, including wing shooting.

As for the Taurus revolvers, some are decent quality, some aren't. It's more a matter of consistency than design. Their Raging Bull 454 Casull is a better design and usually better built than the comparable Ruger Super Redhawk, but a lot of Taurus's older products have pretty poor fit/finish. The newer guns are generally decent quality shooters for a reasonable price, if you want high quality look to Freedom Arms or similar but expect to pay 2x to 3x as much.

 

[Scottman]

Heres something I don't understand. I too have looked at the combo in .22 LR and .410, both H&R and the rossi. The rossi combo seems decent for 100 bucks when on sale. The sights on the rossi if I remember were plastic? .22 is a good caliber, and allowing it to shoot shorts, longs, and long rifles gives you lots of options. Great for small game. I also like how it is easier to load than those bolt action single shots, the .410 is good when you are cold, hungry and shaky, gives you an edge because you don't have to have precise aiming. Also, I have seen a bunny taken on the run at over 50 yards with a .410. I couldn't believe it, but it did happen.

Anyway, what I don't understand is why, if they offer it with a .410 barrel, why cant' they offer it with the .410/45 colt barrel like on the survivor? I would then for sure buy it. I would rather have that so I could use both .410 can shoot 45 colt out of it. .22 for small game and because you can carry a good amount of ammo, .410 for small game again, and .45 colt for bigger game. Oh, just my rambling, pay no attention to it.

Take care and I don't think you can go wrong with a good single shot,
Scottman

 

[messer454]

RescueRiley-You might want to check www.graybeardoutdoors.com. they have entire forums of just NEF and H&R guns and the regulars know as much about them as you guys know about knives and survival stuff. I do not think you can buy a .22 and have them fit a 20 because of the firing pin issue. I think the .22 in the combo is offset to allow for this. You can buy a centerfire rifle and have them put any shotgun barrel on it but not the reverse becuse the shotgun only receivers are not as strong as the rifle. If memory serves it is cast versus forged. The guys on graybeard would know for sure about the .22 to 20. Also I think the .22/.410 combo is a youth gun with shorter stock. Good luck...messer454

 

[Robert H]

It sounds as if the Springfield Scout 22/410 would fit your needs quite well.

 

[Suerte]

There is one problem I can think of, the shotgun is a center fire and the 22 is a rimfire, I don't know how they allow for that. I know on the Contender there is a switch on the hammer to change from one to the other, I don't know how they accomlish this with the Rossi or NEF guns. Chris

The .22lr chamber/bore is offset (not perfectly in the middle).

 

[RescueRiley]

I'd love a sprinfield scout, but they no longer make them...Im going to contact h&r tomorrow and finsout if they can fit other barrels to the matched pair, thanks guys.

 

[Robert H]

I just picked one up a few months ago used. They're out there if you can find them, and I must say, the 410 filled with 6# shot is damned effective on small game.

 

[Blue Sky]

I like NEF's, I have 5 total. I'm a long time bow hunter, so single shot does not feel like a handicap to me. They're great for left-handers (no problems with backward safeties, empties flying in front of your face, etc.). If you're familiar and comfortable with a .410, that combo sounds like a great compact setup.

 

[Badge54]

I got one for my son and he loves it.

I second GreyBeards site. I have spent hours on it and nearly went out and spent lots of money afterwards. It is a dangerous site. Much like this one and Knives.

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