Half Stockman?

rockgolfer

rockgolfer

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Just curious if one has ever been made, particularly with single spring? Would be the coping and spey blade combo.
 
I've seen older schrades and Remington's with a clip and Spey on a single spring. Like moose but with a short Spey.
 
I made up a version with clip and coping blade, single spring a while back. Neat package IMHO.
This knife was based on a Remington 4103 however I exchanged the spey blade for a coping blade.
I would refer to this pattern as a "double ended jack" built on a stock knife frame.

I do not believe I have seen a stock knife, single spring with a coping/spey or sheepfoot/spey.


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For some reason I am stuck on the utility and selection of carrying one straight blade and one with belly(other then a pen) in the same package. With half whittlers and half congress I was hoping for the half stockman. Its interesting to hear how scarce or non-existent this pattern is. With these two blades sitting opposite each other from the get go it seams a given to me. Thats a great looking knife Ken :thumbup: I always enjoy seeing your work and really appreciate your post.
 
Jeff,

I was paging through the Remington c5 reprint and the pattern R4495 is a 3 5/8? equal end,double ended jack with a spey and sheepfoot. It is in the florist knife section. The only thing I can not tell for sure if it is built on a single spring.
 
ken erickson said:
I made up a version with clip and coping blade, single spring a while back. Neat package IMHO.
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I'll say. Very nicely done, and I agree with others about the appeal of having a straight-edge blade and one with a belly.

This knife was based on a Remington 4103 however I exchanged the spey blade for a coping blade.
I would refer to this pattern as a "double ended jack" built on a stock knife frame.
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... And here is where my brain starts to wibble-wobble, when the generally-understood "blades at one end of the frame" Jack designation is applied to a set-up such as this.

(It's okay if y'all would prefer not to try to explain this one to me again, Really Slowly and possibly with pictures. There's just no way, still, I'd be able to pick out the above knife as a "Jack" of any kind.)

To put it another way: this knife, built on the "stockman frame," is not a "half-stockman," why?

~ P.
 
3 5/8? Beggars can not be choosers :). Thanks for the pattern number.

Found a few images by Paulhilborn on this site, the links are gone but found a thumbnail on google and it looks great but can not see the spring either.
 
rockgolfer said:
Half Stockman?

Just curious if one has ever been made, particularly with single spring? Would be the coping and spey blade combo.
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Don't got one with one spring.
Got this Boker with two springs. Kind of a "Stockman Jack". I carry it a lot. The combination of blades is just perfect for me.

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Great looking knife Frank, its tempted me before. I guess I look at it a little different when it pertains to the number of springs. If it is going to have two springs like the Stockman jack then I might as well keep the third blade for the same thickness, no penalty. Weight of one blade with no extra spring I would argue as an undetectable increase in weight while carrying. Where as the decrease in weight and thickness is significantly noticeable when moving the two blades on this pattern to opposite ends and having them share a spring. Again I would be more interested in equal length secondary blades vs. the big clip/small coping setup. Just seams like a great pocket knife that could tackle a lot of work.
 
Look in the forum knife thread. There's a serpintine Schrade pictured that's what you're looking for.
 
You know I felt the same at first about it not being a weight or size savings, but when I started carrying it I realized that the advantage is the orientation of the blades. It's so much handier with the nail nicks oriented as they are in the jack style. I also like that the blades aren't krinked. Makes them much easier to use when trying to make straight cuts.

If 300Bucks comes by, I'm sure he'll show his custom two blade Buck stockman.
 
A GEC #66 Moose or #66 Jack type serpentine with either a Spear or Clip and an length sheepsfoot would fit the bill for me. I've been EDCing a moose for two weeks now and I like the choice of blades but if I could replace the clip with a sheepsfoot or less rounded spine wharncliffe it really would be my "dream" folder.
 
knarfeng said:
You know I felt the same at first about it not being a weight or size savings, but when I started carrying it I realized that the advantage is the orientation of the blades. It's so much handier with the nail nicks oriented as they are in the jack style. I also like that the blades aren't krinked. Makes them much easier to use when trying to make straight cuts.

If 300Bucks comes by, I'm sure he'll show his custom two blade Buck stockman.
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Now I know I am becoming way to picky for my own good ;). My GEC 53 which is now the knife that all others get measured against has both nicks on the mark side for the clip and coping.
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I am spoiled now and have grown to absolutely love this setup. I pick up my 66 jack and carry it around the house often but I hate having to flip the knife around to open it. I have started using my index finger and keeping the knife oriented in the correct position(to me). I can understand your draw to that beautiful knife though, when it fits what you want, their is nothing better :thumbup:
 
Yes
But S&M calls it
On the Box a Half Whittler
On the Pamphlete a Serpentine Moose

Go figure....
But the knife is fine
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Surveyor is a pattern that might fit this bill. In many ways the CASE Small Texas Jack is a Stockman devoid of Spey....Useful carry like the Böker.
 
First off great design and creation Ken.

Second, Frank knows I am promoting this Buck modification at every turn, so I won't miss another chance. Maybe, someone at factory will eventually see that it is a design that will sell and come up with a production order. Jigged bone please if possible.....

Had a 303 Stockman and a 301 Stockman "de-speyed" to make a two blade 'model', but with two springs. I could live with either same end or opposite in a production run. I dumped the spey because I seldom use that blade. I don't castrate any animals or carve wood. I really would like to see a clip and warcliff blade but will settle for a slightly longer sheepsfoot. If someone is going to try this on a Buck folder use the black sawcut scale it will make the modification easier. 300

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