Hard to get good help ? I feel yah.

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I actually hate that term "I feel yah" but seemed to be the shortest way to title this thread.
This is my first and only post in the FEEDBACK forum.

I will start out by saying this is no big deal at all. I'm not pissed or all that surprised given the condition of the world in the last decade or five years.

And I will recount one of my favorite lines that I enjoy reading : It was a perfect day; he even had something to be happily cross about. (that is a very rough quote).

OK here's the deal, I got the hots for the Boker Gent 1. The knife is kind of a looker rather than hard use knife. I'm easy on my knives so I'm going to use the heck out of it; meaning use it often but within it's capabilities. THEN I remembered that the real knife stores will open boxes and inspect a knife to be sure it meets the customer's expectations before shipping it out.

I had been "USING" Blade HQ's site to learn about knives via their excellent lists of specs for each knife they have stocked. Handle thickness for instance. For the most part they list handle and blade thicknesses for knives and this info is super important to me. I like thin blades and fat handles (picture a thin ground Buck 110).

The Gent 1 knife is notorious for coming with ladder damascus. I don't care for this and prefer the more random pattern damascus. I have the Gent 2 (smaller knife than I prefer) I bought it because it has the random pattern; very nice !

I was determined to place an order with Blade HQ to support them for all the tech info I gained by using their store/site. In the end I placed two separate orders with them in two days (two knives at $100 + each.

My only preference in opening the box and inspecting the one knife was that it have random pattern damascus if possible (I realized that there may only be ladder pattern in stock and I was prepared mentally to be OK with ladder pattern).

PS: I will say I ordered a third knife from another vendor a day later and got it before the two I previously ordered from BHQ. Keep in mind I am in an adjoining state to Utah where the knives were shipped from BHQ.
I got the third knife first is my point.

Now on the positive the other knife from BHQ was perfect. Seki City Spyderco so where's the surprise in that right ?

This Boker though (remember the one with the damascus) . . . head in hand like Pecard on the bridge . . . ohboy . . .
. . . so somebody took this out of the box and looked at it ? ? ? ? ? REALLY ? ? ? ?

So by now you've guessed that it has ladder damascus. I'll still take it; it's cool in a kind of over the top glitzy kind of way; I was hoping for a bit more of the wabbie sabby look.
BUT
it is a liner lock that MOST CERTAINLY DOES NOT lock. Even after pushing on the liner bar with my thumb I can still just close the knife VERY EASILY the liner just popping out to the side with about a two on the pull scale of a slip joint. Literally the ball detent provides more resistance as it jumps over the edge of the tang at about a three ! ! !

Of course I can and will fix this. Most people would have to send it back thus wasting everyone concerned's time. A first time knife buyer might even get cut as a result of VERY EASY lock failure.

I would expect ANYONE used to handling folding knives in a store would realize the lock was defective and not let the knife out the door but return it to the maker / get a warranty credit from them.

Over all I am happy to have BLADE HQ's detailed spec sheets. Thank you thank you !
I am happy that I got this knife before it was no longer available (Boker has been dropping some of their older knives of late).
I am really happy with this knife design wise : Light, genuine ebony handle, super thin blade at the spine and behind the edge, black hardware . . . delightful knife ! ! ! !
I thought you should know . . . :rolleyes: :)
 
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I am sure there is some variance among these online knife stores, and some may have store fronts, but I envision them as warehouse operations and shippers(maybe even drop shippers) rather than Mom & Pop operations.
This is more ? than statement , but may explain some.
 
Did you ask them to look over the blade before shipping? Check function, etc?
Most definitely.
That is my whole point :
THEN I remembered that the real knife stores will open boxes and inspect a knife to be sure it meets the customer's expectations before shipping it out.
My only preference in opening the box and inspecting the one knife was that it have random pattern damascus if possible

That was my only specification when I asked them to open the box(es).
I didn't want that to get lost in a list of wants.
I just assumed they wouldn't send me a knife with any anomaly I couldn't fix; I realize this isn't an expensive knife.

Come on, it is a given that they wouldn't at least glance at at least the lock function, general edge condition etc.

That would be like going in for new tires on the car and the attendant not mentioning that the brakes have failed to function since the car was in their care.

I shouldn't have to tell them the small details of their job.
 
PS: I just was looking at the knife with strong magnification and found that the "blade tip" in the lanyard hole was in fact a chip / shaving of ebony wood left over from drilling the lanyard hole.

SORRY !
I've corrected my original post accordingly.
 
The reason I was looking at the knife with strong magnification was to see what I could start thinking about doing to the liner lock.

Just now I flailed the knife open with a bunch of thumb and wrist and the liner actually locked up enough that I couldn't easily over power the lock; not that I trust it yet.

That must have been what the inspector did; just whipped it open.

Up until a moment ago I have opened and closed the knife at least ten times but each time just pushing it open like one might in an office (this is a Gent's knife for dress carry) . . . just pushing on thumb stud and pushing it open until it locks. Like I said I did try forcing the lock into place after opening and did wiggle the blade up and down to get the lock to seat. That didn't work.

Apparently there is break in required demanding vigorous wrist whipping deployment technique.
With enough of this I may not need to disassemble the knife. I don't rely on locks much anyway; I carry a ton of slip joints with no more pull / spring resistance than your average Case Trapper to hold the blade open and do a bunch of pierce cutting. I just do it right. I never try to make feather sticks or bush craft with a folder so don't get in trouble with a folder.

To their credit this must have been what happened. Flailed the knife open and the lock worked well enough to not draw attention to the problem.

I'm starting to get it now.
 
I don't order from bladehq or knife center anymore. Iirc they even campaigned for higher map prices even though they don't check knives before they leave. Very disappointing. I also have other issues with them but I'll not get into those.

In any case, dlt trading is great for checking the instructions and inspecting knives. Really great store for that. Among a few others.
 
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