Hard-Use folder (Preferably with Laynard hole) Strider, Rat Trap or suggestions?

Mindz,
So you think everybody in the CRK forums is biased eh? Well maybe we are but that's because we know what we are talking about!
Like many in the CRK forums, we've owned many knives but we all end up going back to the Sebenza.
You can give into the hype and get the Strider PT but chances are, you'll be sending it back and will be kicking your self for getting the Strider PT in the first place. Oh and that crap about the Hinderer LSB that the larger SnG and SmF has? IMO, completed overrated. Look at the Sebenza, it never had this silly device, and one of the strongest integral folders you can buy. Those folders that need the LSB probably need it to compensate for their poor design. :rolleyes:
 
TKD said:
Mindz,
So you think everybody in the CRK forums is biased eh? Well maybe we are but that's because we know what we are talking about!
Like many in the CRK forums, we've owned many knives but we all end up going back to the Sebenza.
You can give into the hype and get the Strider PT but chances are, you'll be sending it back and will be kicking your self for getting the Strider PT in the first place. Oh and that crap about the Hinderer LSB that the larger SnG and SmF has? IMO, completed overrated. Look at the Sebenza, it never had this silly device, and one of the strongest integral folders you can buy. Those folders that need the LSB probably need it to compensate for their poor design. :rolleyes:
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Yes, I think everyone on the CRK forums are indeed bias towards CRK knives. The very fact the posters frequent the CRK forum indicates a predilection towards CRK products and therefore a bias in-favour of those knives, whoely and unquestionably justifying my statement.

It's obvious from the tone of your post that you yourself bear a strong bias towards CRK knives and it's fine for you, butlike so many others you seem to feel the need to attack other people's choices to justify your own, rather than letting them ride as another 'choice' in the marketplace.

The LSB for example and the way you attack the designs which use it, saying they are inferior; These designs in the past (SnG for example) have done without the LSB (the PT's design still does not feature it) and functioned pretty darn well as I understand, possibly as well as the CRK knives (?). It's only now that such a device has been added as a further precaution.

Shoot it down all you like but I fail to see how a further preventative measure can ever be a bad thing where it fails to effect normal operation? It amounts to not wanting Airbags in your car, as seat-belts have always saved you in the past so you may as well 'make-do' .
Cars don't "need" Airbags due to an inferior design, they're put in to improve the saftey of an existing design by adding additional features and indoing so improve the product.

I came here asking for opinions and I'm grateful I've recieved such strong opinions as yours expressed. It shows that the company you fight to defend produces a quality product that you would stand by even in your spare time. I always say the sign of a quality product is one that sells itself and by doing this you've demonstrated that CRK knives are indeed that :)

Paramilitary
Nice knife, good size. I found the top on the Military to fine though so don't think this would be a wise direction to take.

Cheers guys, please keep comments coming :)
 
TKD said:
Oh and that crap about the Hinderer LSB that the larger SnG and SmF has? IMO, completed overrated. Look at the Sebenza, it never had this silly device, and one of the strongest integral folders you can buy. Those folders that need the LSB probably need it to compensate for their poor design. :rolleyes:
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The Hinderer Lockbar Stabilizer (LBS) is there so you don't over extend your lockbar if you are in a demanding situation and a bit amped. This would come in handy for Firemen, Military, or any other situation where you might accidentally spring your lock. It was invented by an awesome knifemaker in his own right, Rick Hinderer, who also happens to be a Fireman and saw the need for it. Perhaps if you understood why it's there you wouldn't be tempted to say how stupid it is.

And apparently Strider thought it was a good idea too considering their inclusion of it on their hard use framelocks.

later,

oil
 
that guy can't be serious. the sebenza is a cool knife. i've owned several and liked them. but they weren't for me. i sold them. they definatly aren't the best knives in the world in my opinion. for some people they are. personally the Strider SNG is as close to perfect for my use as i can imagine. the locking mechanism is just like the sebenza only thicker.thicker is better when it comes to locks.... at lest in my book.
 
Cheers for all the comments guys :D

At present I belive the Ritter RSK-1 is in the lead with the SnG marginally behind.

I did however learn that a friend of mine a couple of hundred miles away purchased a SnG gen 3-4 a while back. With that in mind I think it could be worth the trip so see if the knife's ergonomics are agreable before plonking down that kind of cash :)


Please keep them coming :D
 
The Ontario XM has a really thick blade and handle combo, though is a little wide on the pocket. Its built really tough and its about the size of a benchmade, I bought one of these just recently and I like it alot.

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Mindz_I said:
.......and it has the lanyard hole........
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Just don't try to put a lanyard through it! :(

I bought an AR and one of the early SnG's just to see what all the "Strider-Rocks!" fuss was about. When you put a lanyard through the holes on the SnG and close the knife - SLICE! The tip of the knife chews right through the cord after a few closings. (I'll see if I can find the photos to post) Maybe this design flaw was fixed in later generations.
 
cockroachfarm said:
Just don't try to put a lanyard through it! :(

I bought an AR and one of the early SnG's just to see what all the "Strider-Rocks!" fuss was about. When you put a lanyard through the holes on the SnG and close the knife - SLICE! The tip of the knife chews right through the cord after a few closings. (I'll see if I can find the photos to post) Maybe this design flaw was fixed in later generations.
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According to Mick you're only supposed to thread your lanyard through the Ti hole. That's how I've got all mine set up and it works fine.

oil
 
you're only supposed to thread your lanyard through the Ti hole.
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No disrespect to oilman or mick but that's just poor engineering. If that really is the case then there shouldn't be a hole in the G10 side.
 
OilMan said:
According to Mick you're only supposed to thread your lanyard through the Ti hole. That's how I've got all mine set up and it works fine.

oil
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You win the prize. ;) I was wondering how long it would take for someone to post that "explanation"! :)
 
I bought a strider PT a while back, and I didn't get the instruction sheet appearantly. Would someone possibly enumerate all the things I'm supposed to do or know about strider knives? I know a couple already:

- Blade wobble and lockup problems are normal until "break in".
- On some models only thread a lanyard through the Ti side.
- Don't expect "apples" fit and finish as this is a "oranges" knife.

What else?
 
DaveH said:
No disrespect to oilman or mick but that's just poor engineering. If that really is the case then there shouldn't be a hole in the G10 side.
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It is likely a cosmetic issue. However it isn't like having the extra hole is a drawback to running the laynard through one side. I don't think that is too much for the average person to deduce if they want to run a laynard.

Mindz_I said:
Paramilitary
Nice knife, good size. I found the top on the Military to fine though so don't think this would be a wise direction to take.
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The Paramilitary has a more robust tip because it has the same thickness taper through a shorter length. It still isn't something I would use for heavy wood work though, for that I would consider something like the Byrd Cara Cara or for an extreme level, the ER Fulcrum.

[Sebenza]

Mindz_I said:
How do the handles hold up to marks etc? Is the Titanium easy to grip in the wet?
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The scales scratch very easily and they are fairly slippery when wet. The Sebenza is a poor choice if you felt the tip on the Military was not strong enough.

[SRKW Rat-trap]

This doesn't have an overly robust tip profile.

-Cliff
 
DaveH said:
No disrespect to oilman or mick but that's just poor engineering. If that really is the case then there shouldn't be a hole in the G10 side.
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Exactly.

Several people mentioned this design flaw when the SnG first came out and we were all fobbed off with that "explanation". No problem; I could care less. But the original poster should know about this because he is obviously interested in attaching a lanyard. I still like my SnG; the design flaw means, to me, that it was designed by humans.

But intentionally drilling TWO lanyard holes and then "explaining" that only ONE of them should actually be USED isn't a "cosmetic" issue at all. Of course, if enough people BELIEVE the explanation, that's all that matters - right? ;)
 
Again, Mr. TKD, do you or have you actually owned a Strider, or is this just ANOTHER example of your poor attempt at a witty remark? I think the LSB is a fairly good idea, and since it doesn't get in the way, who cares? You seem to have a fairly poor opinion of Strider, and I'd like to know if you KNOW something about them and their designs or you just THINK you know?

By the by, I'm not a HUGE Strider fan. I have a Strider Buck, and that's what I use as a beater. I HAVE owned 3 Sebenzas (don't currently own any), and have an opinion of them based on FACT. Do you have the same? I don't think so, but I could be wrong. If you have no FACTS, and only STORIES, then please, for your own dignity, stop stirring the pot.

Sincerely,
Anthony
 
Ontario XM

Looks good. Not keen on the false edge / spear desgin. Think LEOs heare-abouts would frown on that.

SnG lanyard
Damn that blows. I guess I'd have to slip it through one of the scales.

Cliff; Paramilitary / Sebby
Ah I'd not considered the tip would be more robust due to the shorter size. Still I'd like a bit of a beater so this might still not be the best choice since you say wouldn't be too good for heavy woodwork.

Sounds like the sebby deffinetly isn't a way to go if it's scales scratch and it's slippery. Chers

Rat-trap
I guess if it's tip isn't robust then it shoots down getting that as a heavy use knife to especially given it's size.


Thanks all :)
 
a lanyard still works great with the SnG, it just doesn't go thru both scales. i'm glad they didn't extend the handle of the SnG just to accomodate a lanyard... the handle proportion on the SnG is one of it's great design successes.
 
SNG. The "QC" issues crack me up. I have never had one with a problem, and I guarantee I have handled/owned more than any of the uber anal collectors will see in a lifetime. I have seen a bunch come back to the shop all jacked up that were "modified" by their owners or the new breed of "knife modifiers". Leave it alone and it will be fine.
 
DaveH said:
Blade wobble and lockup problems are normal until "break in".
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Liners/integrals can have seating problems initially, this is fairly common, but play/wobble is a first. This is supposed to disappear with use?

-Cliff
 
Cheers guys ^_^

The more I think the more I believe I might be better with something like a strider DB, SA-L, MT Mod 10 and a smaller finer folder to go alongside my Ang Khola :)

All really interesting.
 
Here's another suggestion:

I just received in trade a Spyderco Chinook II from another forum member (thanks again Smegs) and it is one helluva-tough-stout folder.

Good luck,
Allen.
 
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