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Yes, I have several large heavy duty folders. All legal to carry concealed(in the pocket).
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"hard use heavy duty folder" vs Fixed blade?
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TheCarbideRat
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my blade's a 5 incher and yes there are the squeaky squirmy pestful sheeple but i don't carry it openly every day, it's also a very "work" looking rig so that and the place i live in make it fairly ok to carry it.
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Um, yeah.
You play prison lawyer, I'll stick to what I understand about open carry of fixed blades where I live.
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For me, here in Michigan, it's a legal barrier -- it's illegal to carry a fixed blade (of any length), unless it's hunting season, and you have a hunting license and you are headed to or fro. Folders (up to about 3.5"), however, are lawful. I typically carry an Alias I (or my Umnumzaan), and a small Sebenza. That combination gets just about any job done that I need.
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Well, I can tell you that any State (or City) that has "never Enacted Public Laws" about knives or their ability to be carried <period>" will have no problem putting you in jail for breaking their make believe law.
I have seen my share of constitutionalists or what ever you want to call it get put in jail (all the while protesting that it is against the constitution, or they are a sovereign nation or what have you). They were still muttering the same stuff as they were sentenced and the cuffs come out.
That is not to say that many of the legal arguments used in criminal cases are not constitutionally based. Like the right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure (Ie, you need a warrant to search my house, or my vehicle unless the search falls under some exception like search incident to lawful arrest, or inventory search, or hot pursuit etc).
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I get by by carrying a small fixed blade in my back pocket and a folder in my front pocket. I'm not worried about the way others perceive me with the fixed blade, I'm not a jackass waving it around and people hardly know it's even there. It's not concealed since the handle sticks out of the pocket, and it's below 3" in blade length. As far as the folder, it's a tiny 3" folder with M4 tool steel, I figure it can handle any hard use I need to, and if not, I have the fixed blade.
I just do what I need to and move on. No one has ever said anything about it, and I've never received a second look - except from women.
I just do what I need to and move on. No one has ever said anything about it, and I've never received a second look - except from women.
Folders fit in the pocket. Though fixed blades are stronger/tougher but if you break a decent folder you're doing something you shouldn't be doing
I agree with that.
Also, here in the Netherlands carrying a fixed blade on your belt it isn't accepted, though many are legal. People will call the police if they see me walking on the street with a Mora on my belt. So I always carry folding knives here.
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1) It's easier to hide a hard use folder than a hard use fixed blade.
2) If I'm going to use my folder hard enough to risk breaking it, it might just be simpler to use a purpose-built(and cheaper) tool like a prybar, hammer, axe, or machete.
2) If I'm going to use my folder hard enough to risk breaking it, it might just be simpler to use a purpose-built(and cheaper) tool like a prybar, hammer, axe, or machete.
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They do? I walk through city center with a fixed blade on my belt on a regular basis, in and out of shops, fast food joints etc etc. Never had a problem.
The fact that the ones I carry are all custom made and none of them look like killing weapons might help. But still my reasoning stands and if police would come I would refuse to give up my knife.
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You can carry it in your pocket + it's half as short due to the folding of it = a bit more comfortable to carry.
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I sure do appreciate where I live. I've been offered jobs where I'd be making twice as much as I can here, but I played that game for ten years. I'm not leaving "home" again. I can carry a gun damn near anywhere, and I've never gotten "funny looks" for carrying any knife anywhere.
It's not that I "need" to, but I can. I can carry my loaded pistol right beside me in the car. Nobody cares, and I like that. States like this are getting harder and harder to find. Population seems to have a very negative impact on a person's rights.
It's not that I "need" to, but I can. I can carry my loaded pistol right beside me in the car. Nobody cares, and I like that. States like this are getting harder and harder to find. Population seems to have a very negative impact on a person's rights.
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Would you like to test this line of reasoning at the airport? Let us know how that works out when they give you your one phone call.
No Constitutional right exists unconditionally: not speech, not religion, not RKBA. Even the most radical of the Founding Fathers acknowledged that.
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Your exactly right man, in a place and time long, long ago my friend.....Our beloved Republic is gone.....
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Same with folders. Here in Aberdeen, I'll be able to carry my Cold Steel Rajah 2, with its' 6 inch blade (when I receive it), but in Seattle and Tacoma, I'm limited to a folding blade of 3.5 or less...(Might even be 3 inch or less in Seattle.). This is all so stupid, as I can carry a fully loaded pistol, concealed, with no problem, with my CC permit.
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Seattle is 3.5" limit.
SMC 12A.14.010
C. "Dangerous knife" means any fixed-blade knife and any other knife having
a blade more than three and one-half inches (3 1/2") in length.
I too find it funny that I can carry up to a 3.5" folder in Seattle, but when it comes to my small Izula 2.88" its a big no no...:thumbdn: The way I see it is why are you going to worry about me carrying a small fixed blade when I can carry my pistol with as many spare mags as I want. Heck, I can even open carry my pistol but you are still going to worry about my 2.88" izula?!?!?!?!?
Best part is no one here really knows the city laws regarding knife carry. I work the gun shows here and am in contact with many police officers. When I ask them what is the legal blade limit/legality of a fixed blade in their city they are all over the place.
Great example is when I called my local pd and asked about the legality of fixed blade carry and blade length. The first time I called the LT on duty never returned my call. 2nd time I called, the LT on duty didn't even know himself saying it must be in the 4" range and that fixed blade concealed/open carry was ok. Then I go looking for the specific city code and it says that 3" is max, but did not mention anything about fix blade (thus it would be legal to carry any fixed blade up to 3").
Wish WA state Concealed Pistol License (CPL )would just turn into a Concealed Weapons License (CWL).......
Heres what I'm referring to when their city codes are all over the place.Only mention of knife carry for my city is weapons prohibited on liquor sale premises!?!?!?
Federal Way, WA code
6.25.030 Weapons prohibited on liquor sale premises.
Section 1
(b) Carry any knife, sword, dagger or other cutting or stabbing instrument, with a blade of a length of three inches or more, or any razor with an unguarded blade, whether such weapon or instrument is concealed or not;