Hard Use Knife? Using your knives? Batoning?

I'm with others on this.

I take a large to large-ish fixed blade and a folding saw for camping, as well as a smaller knife to take care of anything else. I see nothing wrong with batoning with a FB that was designed with it in mind. I find larger fixed blades work better for me than a hatchet, and are more useful to me personally.

Given the choice, I wouldn't want to baton with a folder but I would if I "had" to to survive.

I also don't use my knives as screwdrivers or prybars.
 
I usually use my knives only for cutting. I have several old hatchets and axes that won't be breaking anytime soon and I'm fairly good at using them, so I don't see any point for me to get a $60+ fixed blade so that I can baton. I just find using hatchets and axes are so much more FUN and efficient when you get used to them, but that's just my personal opinion, which you asked for.
 
I will use mine in the kitchen for cutting up meat or veggies, to outdoors for carving, chopping, batoning, skinning, gutting, filleting, or anything else that a sharp edge may be required for.
 
I use my hard use knives hard...
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... and my folders much less so...
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Beckerhead #42
 
I use my hard use knives hard...

That's the way: enjoy, but use 'em hard. Sometimes when I'm tempted to get too attached to my prettiest blades (I'm sure that some here can identify), I remind myself they are not Precious Moments figurines, they are just tools. :-)

BTW, I've been thinking that it's high time I take my new Spydie Native 5, with the s35v FFG blade, take it out, drive over it on the blacktop a few times to scratch it up good, then use it to pry some rusty nails out of my old shed, then cut up some old scrap wire, just to break it in and see if it's tough enough for backpacking duty. Just kidding! :-)

Certainly agree with those who prefer to use specialized tools when available: axes, saws, prying bars, chisels, scraping tools, screwdrivers, hammers. For me though, these tools AREN'T always available, especially not when backpacking, hunting, and during EDC. Often I have to make due with a choice among just a couple of blades, especially during EDC. If I can find a tool on my Leatherman S2 MT that will accomplish a job, I'll use that. If I need to do something that would normally be abusive to a knife, but if I can improvise and use something else, or even delay doing a job until later, I'll try to avoid abusing my blades. But when I have no choice, absolutely I will use my EDC knives for anything necessary. I've used knives for all kinds of stuff: prying off lids, cutting wire, cutting open food cans, batoning wood pieces, turning screws, cutting boxes, dressing game, cutting metal, slicing fruits/veggies, cutting brush, cleaning fish, whatever it takes. My Mini-Rukus s30v folder is scratched and beat to snot, because it is my normal go-to blade (I do try to concentrate the most abusive tasks on just a couple of my blades, no point wearing them ALL out faster if I don't have to). I would not call the Rukus a "beater", because it's still a great-performing knife with a great Axix lock, a beautiful flat-ground 30v blade, and nicely sculpted Micarta grips, it's an awesome EDC folder. Yet it looks like a used tool, because it is.

One general point to make here, on the idea of using the right tool for the job and saving your blades: I found in the last few years that always carrying a multitool (which I never used to, but now I am never without one) can really save your blades from a lot of abuse. In addition to the MT, I'm also thinking about adding one of those small pry bars from CountyComm.com, because with the pry bar plus the MT, you've got a LOT of tool capability in a very small package, and not only do these "save" your blades from needless abuse, they also work better when you can use the right kind of tool for a job. Only reason I haven't done the pry bar until now, I so rarely have to pry anything, it just doesn't seem to warrant carrying that heavy little chunk of steel in my pocket at all times, if I only use it once a year or so.
 
STR has some really nice mini titanium prybars in a few configurations, colors and sizes, I got one each for my wife & myself. They've come in handy already, several times. :thumbup:
 
I have a nice Knives of Alaska hatchet & a Silky Saw. I typically bring the saw on overnight trips & the hatchet is next to my wood burning stove.

I've had several situations where it was really handy to have very sturdy folding knives. At a party out in the desert there was plenty of firewood but zero kindling. I used my SnG to split some oak to varying sizes... Stiff arm hammer grip, not batoning. I was helping a friend move a several hundred pound vending machine. I had to quickly pry off the door jambs in transit. SnG to the rescue again.

Typically if I see things like this coming, I will bring a fixed blade. If I'm going camping, I bring the right tools. I do really like to EDC a super sturdy folding knife though... typically a CRK or Strider. I would LOVE to try out a Hinderer (slicer grind) but can't justify a $7-800 price tag.
 
I will abuse any knives I have if it saves my life in the end. So when it comes to any tools, in this case a knife, it's purpose is to get the job done regardless on if it's not designed for it or not. A smart outdoors man will choose a knife that covers the most wide range of functions as the human body can only carry so much weight.

I rather carry a knife designed for heavy use and abuse during any emergencies and never have to encounter emergencies than to carry a "pretty" knife that's only "meant for cutting" and be shoved into an emergency situation with tool(s) unprepared for the job.

Human tools are meant to prolong our lives, not be all "pretty for cutting". ;)
 
I use my EDCs for a half dozen things or more every day. It can range from something as mundane as sharpening a pencil or scraping a splinter out of my hand to shaping a notch and marking lumber.

Yesterday I used it to pry beadboard to one side or the other to get it plumb. Beadboard can stick together very tightly after being joined, and can be pried back apart slightly to straighten it. A strong bladed pocket knife works well for this job. I also cut the straps on cabinet packing boxes, used it to pick up a piece of 20" tile high enough off a concrete floor to get my fingers under it, cut plastic tubing, shaving splinters off a board, cutting plastic sheeting, prying the lid off a paint can, cutting the mesh holding tile together, and a few other things I can't remember.

Andy

Yup. With you all the way. Add cutting heavy plastic tips of adhesive, cutting asphalt felt paper, cutting off air hose fittings and installing new ones for the nail guns, stripping wire, etc. As a contractor in these lean times, I am back to doing a lot of the work I get myself. If it is carpentry/woodwork, that's my end without doubt. Even after almost 40 years of doing this stuff I still get a kick out of hanging cabinets and trimming out a project.

I always carry two knives, a larger one clipped to my pocket as my main beater. The knife chosen to be clipped to my pocket for a week or two may really get pushed to the limits. I have used my RAT 1 (and others) to cut fiberglass shingles in an emergency, punch holes in sheetmetal (in an emergency) and even cut Romex with it (edge to wire, then tapped on the spine with a hammer which had the surprising result of just blunting that spot in the edge a bit :thumbup: ) when my truck was being used to pick up other material and no cutters were around.

However, I also keep a smaller knife in my pocket like a peanut or medium rancher. I keep the "inside my pocket knife" as sharp as possible and regardless of the circumstances it is only used for cutting and traditional knife chores like splinter picking, fingernail trimming, a super fine trim on a piece of molding and cutting a V groove in my cigar. My "in the pocket" knives are always traditionals and are only used as knives.

Robert
 
I agree that you may have to do all kind of things with a knife in an emergency, but I'm just talking about day to day life when you have many resources at your command

So your question amounts to "would you choose to use a knife over a more appropriate tool?"

You really had to ask?
 
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