Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire on IMAX

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I was laid up with my knee whenthe new Harry Potter film opened, so I had not had a chance to see it until last weekend. My wife and I went to see it at the IMAX theater at the National Air & Space Museum. We sat in the middle of the seating and at a height to put us in the middle of the screen. We were able to do this because we both are limited in our walking and climbing abilities and were given early entrance.

The film is stunning and, on IMAX, it is incredible. If you can get a chance to see it, do so, as it i a visual feast worth the effort. I would think that "The Lord OF the Rings" trilogy would be even more stunning on IMAX. As many of you must know, the book was very long and they had to cut a lot out to fit the time frame of the film. Well, the only part that I really missed was the explanation of why Harry's wand was able to stand off Voldemort's assault. In the book, the explanation is that both Harry's and Voldemort's wands have feathers from the same Phoenix bird within them.

Also, if any of you were ever in dancing class, the scene of Professor McGonagle trying to teach the Gryfindor's how to dance is an absolute riot.
 
I can only imagine what that movie would look like on the IMAX. It must have been amazing.

I am a huge fan of the Harry Potter series, having read each book at least twice. It's going to be a quite a wait for the last one.

Not to hijack your thread, but what are your predictions for the last book?
 
Is Dumbledore really dead? Think of Gandalf the Gray.

I think that Harry, Ron, Hermione, and Ginny will come back to Hogwarts, at least for a while, to finish off what they will need to take on the likes of Snape, Malfoy, and, of course, Voldemort.

Finally, I believe that that poor Neville Longbottom really come into his own. He has been coming along quite well and showed real promise in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix and I do not believe that Rowling is through with him quite yet. Remember that the Prophecy* was that a boy child born in July also applies to Neville. But also remember that Dumbledore said that Voldemort had made Harry the one who would have the power to kill him when he tried to kill Harry and Lily Potter saved Harry by taking Voldemort's Avedra Kadavra Curse on herself and sacrificing her life to save Harry. This love gave Harry extra power and he also gained some of Voldemort's power at the same time. Think of how Harry's scar hurts whenever Voldemort is near. BTW, there seems to be a theory kicking around the Net that Neville will have to die for Harry to live, again based upon the Prophecy. I am not so sure of that one.

* Prophecy Theories
The prophecy is actually referring to Harry and Neville, not Harry and Voldemort
"The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches . . . born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies . . . and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not . . . and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives . . . the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies . . ." (Order of the Phoenix, page 841.)
From http://www.veritaserum.com/theories/nucleus/prophecy.shtml
 
Someone put me onto Rowlings Webpage and she has taken note of the speculation about Harry having to kill Neville or of Neville haviong to die in order for Harry to succeed. She says that this is not in the works, that she has other plans for Neville.:)

Should anyone be interested, here is the address of her Webpage:
http://www.jkrowling.com/en/thankyou.cfm
 
When Hugh gets into a topic, he sure goes all the way.
:D

Hugh, if and when you get to the UK, you oughtta go to Oxford to visit "Hogwarts".
 
So I hear. But nbody is going to convince me that the scenery of lakes and mountains around Hogwarts is from Oxford. More like the Hiighlands of Scotland, ifd you ask me.
 
I've got two grandkids who are potter adicts, and now that I know the Imax downtown has it I just have to take them. Thanks for the heads up fullerH. By the way, what happened to your knee?

Having read all the books to the kids, I can only conclude Harry is going to have to go mano y mano with Voldemort. And if he gets to snipe at Snape for the sheer revenge of it, so much the better. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but it looks like it shapes up like a western. The young hero's are going to have to take on the bad guy in black and his henchmen. If they're lucky they'll get some help from the pro's at the school. (the posse)

But maybe I watched too many westerns when I was young. But even the westerns were just a version of the Shakespear morality plays. Theres the good guys, and the evil doers. The time comes you have to face the bad guys to set things right. May loose a few of the good guys along the way, but "a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do".

It worked for Coop.
 
There are a number of sites that list locations used in the Harry Potter films.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Harry+Potter+locations&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Alnwick castle, in Northumbria, is used for outside shots of Hogwarts in the first film, notably the flying lessons.

The cloisters of Gloucester Cathedral pose as corridors of Hogwarts for the first three films.

Scotland is used for scenery, particularly "Concrete Bob Macalpine's" Glenfinnan viaduct, on which the Hogwarts express travels and over which the Weasley's Ford Anglia flies.

The Locomotive "Hogwarts Castle" is actually a Great Western Hall class engine, Olton Hall. Normally painted Brunswick green, not red.

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Oh, and I'm glad you are out and about again, Hugh!

Andy.
 
Jacknife, the knee is doing right well, but I still tire fairly easily. I get through the day by placing one foot in front of the other, if you follow me. But it is slowly returning.
 
Hey, Shaldaq, it's hard not to be a Potter Fan when you live with a true Potter Fanatic.
 
jackknife said:
I've got two grandkids who are potter adicts, and now that I know the Imax downtown has it I just have to take them. Thanks for the heads up fullerH.
Jackknife, may I suggest that you buy tickets at least a week ahead. My wife used either a telephone or their website and charged the tickets. It was our experience that the shows are all sold out by the weekend of the shows. It would be terrible to bring two kids down and find that it is sold out . Also, get there at least an hour ahead of the show even with tickets., because there is a huge line that forms waiting to get into the theater. Actually, I would recommend more than an hour.
 
what about the rumors going around that Snape may still be a good guy? That it was out of character for Dumbledore to beg Snape not to kill him and that in fact, Dumbledore was telling Snape to kill him.

Remember, Snape could have killed Harry too, but instead deflected his spells and actually seemed to advise Harry.

I think Snape may turn out to be not so bad.
 
oscar zeta said:
what about the rumors going around that Snape may still be a good guy? That it was out of character for Dumbledore to beg Snape not to kill him and that in fact, Dumbledore was telling Snape to kill him.

Remember, Snape could have killed Harry too, but instead deflected his spells and actually seemed to advise Harry.

I think Snape may turn out to be not so bad.

I'm with you, oscar. Dumbledore repeatedly said that Snape should be trusted no matter what. Since Snape is so clearly about a thousand times more powerful than HP, I think he will play a pivotal role in the final victory over Voldemort.
 
I've only seen the movies, but I would be up for reading about the last battle between Potter and Voldemort. I was under the impression, from the movies, that Snape had been fully reformed, in the last movie, when Voldemort called his surviving followers, Snape wasn't one of them. IMHO, without reading the books mind you, Snape might not like Potter, but he doesn't hate him.

BTW, sorry to go OT, has anyone read Eragon? Is it a kids book like Harry Potter ;), or a kids book like Lord of the Rings ;)?
 
Hugh,

I am in partial disagreement with you.

I saw the first screening of the movie just after midnight when it opened (not due to fanatacism; I just happened to be with my brother when he suggested that we go see a midnight movie, and that was one we could both agree on). Both my brother and I really liked the books, but we were both rather disappointed with this movie. (By the way, we got right in with no lines. I think this lines & crowds thing is because of the area where you live, Hugh.)

Yes, it was visually stunning. However, it left out more parts of the book than it included, and was ultimately somewhat incoherent. For people who are familiar with the book, it can certainly be enjoyable as sort of "a visualisation of select scenes from the book"; but... in my opinion... the movie must be complete in of itself, and this movie did not stand on its own as more than a visual companion of select scenes from the book. So, I might recommend this movie to folks who know the book, but I wouldn't give it an unqualified recommendation to someone who is not already familar with it.

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WARNING: ** SPOILERS **

Regarding thoughts about Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince, and the next book:

Firstly, Snape is obviously on the side of good, against Voldemort. I expect that we will find in the next book (I'll tentatively call it Harry Potter and the Hamper of Dirty Linens ;) ) that the reason Dumbledore could always unfailingly trust Snape is because of some Unbreakable Vow that Snape had chosen to make with Dumbledore.

Snape's fundamental goodness and his siding against Voldemort also explains why, when he dueled with Harry during his escape, he took the occasion to give Harry a lesson about how he will need to learn silent spell-casting and Occulmency in order to win his fight against Voldemort.

I also expect the next book (HDL for short ;) ) will make clear that, when Dumbledore was pleading with Snape, he was not pleading for his life. Do you recall, in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (Philospher's Stone, in the original British versions) the scene at the end of the book where Dumbledore tells Harry that he spoke with Nicholas Flamel and they decided to destroy the Sorcerer's Stone? In that scene, Harry asks, (paraphrasing) "doesn't that mean Nicholas Flamel will die?" Dumbledore answers yes, and then assures Harry that for Nicholas and his wife, it will be like going to bed after a very long day. Dumbledore goes on to explain to Harry that he sees death as just the beginning of the next great adventure. So... would it make sense for someone who takes that perspective on death to plead for his life? I think not.

Then what was Dumbledore pleading for? My best guess, is that Dumbledore was pleading for Snape not to blow his cover in Voldemort's innermost circle of Death Eaters.

Which brings up the question of whether Dumbledore did, in fact, truly die. I can see this going either way, and won't make a prediction about this, but there is certainly a plenty strong case to be made for how he could be alive. As we learned throughout the book, Snape has mastered casting spells silently, so it is feasible that he could've cast an entirely different spell while merely saying "Avada Kedavra". This would explain why, when Snape pointed his wand at Dumbledore and said "Avada Kedavra", the spell that was described was entirely different than the way that the death curse is described in all other instances throughout the series. (Throughout the series, it just causes someone to instantly slump over, dead; in this one case, it forcefully blasts someone back off his feet.) How could Dumbledore have appeared dead, if he was not? Remember that potion which makes someone sleep so deeply as to appear dead? That's how.

Whether Dumbledore is dead or not, I'll make two related predictions: 1) He is not simply out of the series; he still plays some part in the final book. If he's dead, then (A) Harry should still be able to consult with Dumbledore's portrait in the Headmaster's office; (B) Dumbledore said quite clearly (In Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, in Hagrid's cabin, when Harry was hiding under his cloak, when Lucius Malfoy told Dumbledore that the board of Governors was removing him from the position of Headmaster) that, even if Dumbledore bodily left Hogwarts, that part of him would be there, as long as anyone loyal to him still remained at Hogwarts, and that those in need would still receive help. My other prediction (2) is that even if Dumbledore is still alive, we've come to the point in the arc of the series where Harry has matured enough that he must stop behaving stupidly, must become pro-active, and must, to a large degree, go it alone.

A few final, more way-out-there predictions, for fun:

Petunia Dursley is a witch or a squib.

Voldemort made into a Horcrux something or someone very dear to Harry, which Harry won't want to have to destroy.

We will see that the conversation between Dumbledore and Malfoy, shortly before Snape zaps Dumbledore, is the moment where Malfoy chose the side of the good, against Voldemort.

Harry's power which the Dark Lord knows not... love, as Dumbledore explained to Harry... is going to somehow involve forgiveness and/or redemption with Malfoy and Snape.

Whoever "RAB" turns out to be, will be helpful to Harry in preparing for the final conflict with Voldemort. The only guess I can come up with for the initials "RAB" is Regulus Black (whom I know is supposed to be dead).

Ron and Hermione will "Snog".

And really out on a limb:

Perhaps McGonagall is an undercover death eater? That would explain what would otherwise seem like a minor error at the beginning of the first book. Probably just an error...

Mike
 
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