Harshest military training in the world?

I'll put the Canadians up there.Less resources and less manpower forces the members to be more well-rounded in their given tasks. As far as candidates being killed during training; unfortunately that is probably fairly common relative to the size of the group being trained. Afterall, when would the most likely time for an accident happen? I'd be willing to bet it was during a session where someone was sleep deprived and overloaded with outside stimuli to up the stress level. Didn't they do a reality game-show on the SAS?
 
inspira said:
I'll bet the SAS / SASR are pretty tough too.
People die during selection... lets think about that for a moment.
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I thought about it and if the training is difficult like it should be then yep, soldiers die. In 1993 the 75th Ranger regiment lost way more soldiers to training accidents than they did to combat losses in Somalia. The bad thing is if a soldier dies in training then the powers that be want to dumb down the training.
 
acwire_2125 said:
Well, did you know about the British's Parachute Comapany? They have one of the toughest training there!
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Yah actually I do know about them, I worked with 1st Para and 2nd Para during the 93-94 time frames. I want to say it was 1st Para that sponsored the team I was on when we competed in the Cambrian Patrol, I also worked with their Pathfinder unit they had at that time.
 
Any idea how tough is their training? They work very hard for that Red Beret. And the Pegasus insignal too. I saw a video once of their selection test, dubbed the "P Comapny"
 
acwire_2125 said:
Any idea how tough is their training? They work very hard for that Red Beret. And the Pegasus insignal too. I saw a video once of their selection test, dubbed the "P Comapny"
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Sorry I don’t have much info on their training, the guys I spent the most time with was their Pathfinders, which for them mean recon. They were in pretty good shape and were tactically sound. I had a good time, picked up a few tricks and drank a lot of Guinness
 
I'm just now finishing a book that I've spent the last two years writing with an ex Ausssie SASR trooper. Getting an inside look at their selection process was an extreme eye opener. I'm not interested in any pissing contests about whose SF training is tougher because I'm sure they all try to break at least 90% of applicants and take the rest. The toughness of the training is dictated by the breaking point of the human mind/body, not by any inherent superiority in one military's methods.

However, I've been a semi-professional athlete and not unfamiliar with grueling physical efforts but was still shocked by how tough they make 'selection'.

All special forces training is brutal it seems.
 
acwire_2125 said:
WEll, any one know the training of the Gurkhas?
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I know the Pathfinder team I was had been forced to accept a Gurkha on their team. They were livid about it and that guy was in a living hell. They did not speak highly of him and he didn’t do anything that I thought was impressive. The negative environment could have had a big effect, but the guy had to be told to do everything.
 
Ming65 said:
I'm just now finishing a book that I've spent the last two years writing with an ex Ausssie SASR trooper. Getting an inside look at their selection process was an extreme eye opener. I'm not interested in any pissing contests about whose SF training is tougher because I'm sure they all try to break at least 90% of applicants and take the rest. The toughness of the training is dictated by the breaking point of the human mind/body, not by any inherent superiority in one military's methods.

However, I've been a semi-professional athlete and not unfamiliar with grueling physical efforts but was still shocked by how tough they make 'selection'.

All special forces training is brutal it seems.
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Yeah. They play loud music and noise during the harsh physical exercises to make it that much more difficult. hehe.

Helps if you're a good singer, btw. :thumbup:
 
WEll, I heard the Gurkhas are one of the toughest troops in the world, maybe that Gurkha of yours is not trained yet!
 
acwire_2125 said:
WEll, I heard the Gurkhas are one of the toughest troops in the world, maybe that Gurkha of yours is not trained yet!
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If you already know so much about the Gurkhas why are you asking here? I would think that if you were the Gurkha commander and you were tasked to send a solider over to be in another outfit you would pick a good one. Especially since the outfit was made out of soldiers picked from the Para Regiments. I don’t know if the guy I worked with was an accurate example of their unit or not, I just know if the environment I worked with him in, he wasn’t very impressive.
 
Horned Toad said:
Yah actually I do know about them, I worked with 1st Para and 2nd Para during the 93-94 time frames. I want to say it was 1st Para that sponsored the team I was on when we competed in the Cambrian Patrol, I also worked with their Pathfinder unit they had at that time.
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I have a friend in the Pathfinder Regiment. He gave me lots of neat gear including his beret and badge, plus assorted knives, and regulation kit. He said he was off to Afganistan to 'do a little job' and he would be back in about a month. I asked him what he was doing and he said he would be close to the Iraq border and was 'marking targets'. About 2 weeks later, I heard on the television that Iraqi anti-air missile sites had been hit by British fighter planes 20 miles into Iraqi territory. When he came backed and asked him if that was the target marking, he just laughed and said 'no comment'.


acwire_2125

The benefit of the Ghurkas is that they are 'fearless'. They believe dying for a just cause puts them in a better place. The appreciate the British government for giving them a job which helps their family and their extended family. I had a friend, now deceased who was a British ghurka major who fought in French Indo-China, (now Vietnam). I have loads of stuff from him, including a Japanese surrender sword, Japanese prayer flag, his dress sword, his khukri given by 'his men', his father's dress sword, and other 'stuff' including a pair or presentation artillery canons.
 
I'd say they are all pale compared to WW2's 1st Para troopers, Easy company they were called? The tactics they deployed then are still taught now, and those boys jumped into shit no one in modern times can imagine, came out fighting and pulled a win off for us, All you French can stop and thank them since you wouldn't be speakin French no more without them. :)
 
NGK-Webmaster said:
I'd say they are all pale compared to WW2's 1st Para troopers, Easy company they were called? The tactics they deployed then are still taught now, and those boys jumped into shit no one in modern times can imagine, came out fighting and pulled a win off for us, All you French can stop and thank them since you wouldn't be speakin French no more without them. :)
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They couldn't have been so tough, or else Mel Gibson would have made a movie about them a long time ago ;)
 
How about the well over 100,000 child soldiers in Uganda, Mozambique, Congo, Liberia, Rwanda, Sierra Leone and Sudan to name a few Countries where kids were forced to kill, steal and rape. 9 year old kids growing up killing . Harsh enough for ya ?
 
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