Has Aldo's CS started to slip?

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I want to preface this by saying that I've shopped with Aldo for the entirety of the time I've been making knives, and had nothing but good service, until this year. I've never hesitated to recommend New Jersey Steel Baron before, and have been 100% happy with the products. And Aldo is a great guy. I'd be happy to hoist a few with him. However...

Recently, as some of you may know, I had a little issue with obtaining some steel from Aldo, for the second time. I attempted to buy some CPM 3V from Aldo over the summer, and waited for a couple weeks before getting notified that the website had apparently screwed up, none was in stock, and they couldn't tell me when they were going to be able to get my order to me. I eventually had to ask for a refund, and they ended up holding my money for nearly 2 months before it was back in my bank account.

Then, I tried again. Placed the order, waited, and eventually had to call myself to find out that, in fact, the steel was again back-ordered, and "I'd somehow managed to get caught twice," as Aldo put it. They offered me nothing in the way of compensation for the hassle they'd put me through twice in a row. I decided that, again, I wanted my money refunded. Aldo told me it was done, and then, nearly 2 weeks later, it still hasn't posted to my account. Imagine my surprise when I call up, and find out that they hadn't actually refunded my money. I finally got an email confirmation that it has theoretically been refunded, but it's STILL not posted back to my account, 4 days later. On each case, the lady who answered the phone seemed rather annoyed by my call.

Again, they haven't done a thing to compensate me for the hassle, as so many of my other favorite retailers would have. They've now held hundreds of dollars of my money for a combined total of more than 4 months between the two incidents, without my receiving the products I paid for. And I still haven't received a response to an email I sent months ago. Now, I realize that they're more responsive over the phone. But I'm really unhappy that I can get screwed twice, request a refund and have them forget to do it for nearly 2 weeks, and not even get an apology for the inconvenience. And, this is really inconvenient for me.

Am I expecting too much to actually get the products I PAID for in a timely fashion, to have a refund processed in a timely fashion and not just have them forget about it? This customer service is about the worst I've experienced in the past 2 years. They should not be taking my money unless they're ready to ship, in my opinion, and they should never have my money for 4 months without me receiving my order, nor should I have to be the one to contact them to discover their error. I'm not happy that I talked with Aldo, explained the situation, and got neither a timely refund, nor more than a "sucks to be you, having gotten caught twice" for a situation caused by THEIR mistake. Well, fool me twice, shame on me. I have to say, I doubt I'll be doing business with Aldo again.

Has anyone else had customer service issues with Aldo recently, or is it really just that I've gotten the short end of the stick with them?
 
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I would be very annoyed at that service if it happened to me!! I have only ordered once from them so my experience was good. If I hear other stories of bad service I will find somewhere else to get steel!!
 
I really hate to say it, but they may be having some difficulties. I have had two experiences recently somewhat similar to yours. I'm going to leave the details out, as I think the mistakes were honest enough, but it still really put me behind the 8 ball. They tried to make it right, but it just wound up compounding the situation when they made the second mistake. It was a smaller order, but very important to me and the customers. And I don't know who it is answering the phone, but I have no trouble stating that she seemed very annoyed to talk with me, too.

Sam
 
His website has also been suspended.

I just happened to be logging in, and when I saw your post, I checked, and you're right. His website is down. I really hope everything will be alright with them. Despite the hiccup mentioned earlier, I have had an otherwise positive experience with them. Hopefully it gets sorted out.
 
I've ordered maybe a thousand from Aldo's site in the past few months, and have had relatively good service. I never order anything special, and its usually always in stock. I would be very frustrated if the same thing happen to me though.

Aldo is active on this forum, hopefully he will give his input and try to resolve this situation.

His site being "suspended" could be for a number of reasons. Not paying his bill, exceeding his bandwidth, violating their TOS
 
Maybe they took it down to fix the issue with listing things in stock when they're not actually.

-edit- Got my refund posted back to my account today.
 
Aldo has been excellent in all my dealings the past couple of years. I live on the East Coast so most of my orders come within days. I will say all of my dealings have been with basic 1095 steel.

Now if what had happened to you happened to me I would have not let it drag out so long. I just would have done a PP claim. I know you probably didn't want to do that out of respect or something like that but I don't like it when anyone besides me control my cash.

Hopefully it is temporary and his website is back up and running strong.
 
Site seems to be back up. And the only reason it really dragged on so long is that, first, I was waiting for my order to ship and arrive, which usually takes a little over a week, after which point I call back. Then, it takes a while for the refund to process through the bank, so I wasn't about to bother them if it had already gone through and the bank was the one holding up the process. I had every reason to expect my refund in a timely fashion, because I heard Aldo instruct them to do the refund when I was on the phone with him. I don't really see how it's my responsibility to find out if there are any issues with my order either.

I don't blame Aldo himself for any of this. However, some of his new? help, such as this cerberus at the gates he's got handling customer communication, sure doesn't make me want to do business with his company.
 
I just put an order in with Aldo, he has a new person taking orders. A young woman, said she's 24 but sounds like she's 16, anyway, while it was clear she was still learning the ropes, she was most helpful and eager to do what she could.

Your situation was tough. But I wouldn't give up on them just yet. I think Aldo is sometimes in over his head. He's personally taken orders from me, only to have his son call back needing my credit card info.
 
I just put an order in with Aldo, he has a new person taking orders. A young woman, said she's 24 but sounds like she's 16, anyway, while it was clear she was still learning the ropes, she was most helpful and eager to do what she could.

Your situation was tough. But I wouldn't give up on them just yet. I think Aldo is sometimes in over his head. He's personally taken orders from me, only to have his son call back needing my credit card info.

I agree with you. I just put in another order the other day, I want to support them and I hope they continue to do well. And they have great prices. I think the only adjustment I will make is that for time-sensitive orders, I may get stuff elsewhere. They are just a little slower. But for regular stuff, they will continue to be my first choice.
 
I don't blame Aldo himself for any of this. However, some of his new? help, such as this cerberus at the gates he's got handling customer communication, sure doesn't make me want to do business with his company.

And lol!
 
I haven't shopped at any other steel supplier in quite awhile, but it does seem to me Aldo's prices are going up. It's more than likely an across the industry change, but steel's not all that cheap anymore. Nor is leather, or sandpaper, or belts, geesh!
 
I haven't shopped at any other steel supplier in quite awhile, but it does seem to me Aldo's prices are going up. It's more than likely an across the industry change, but steel's not all that cheap anymore. Nor is leather, or sandpaper, or belts, geesh!

You make a good point, David. Aldo has such good prices on a lot of steels, I wonder if he just got in a little over his head, giving us TOO good of a deal?
 
Welp, I'll be placing an order with SB on Monday. The quest to get my 3V continues...

I don't know what size you're looking for, but Alpha Knife Supply has some in stock right now. Can't recommend them highly enough. And if it's on their website, it's IN stock. Let me know how it goes.

Sam
 
Thanks. I'm looking for a...unique size. 6" wide by at least 36" long. SB should have me covered, and they've been very helpful thus far.
 
I ordered a 48" bar of 1084 on the 2nd. Got a shipping notification on the 3rd.

Shipping was a little more than I expected, but the steel was so inexpensive that it's an easy hit to my wallet.

I'm in California, so all the way across the country so I'm not sure when it'll arrive. In any case I'll post back on when/how it arrives.
 
Hey guys, just an update.

It's only been a short time, but it looks like my order hasn't shipped. I chose a size that they had in stock so that they would ship sooner.

Oh well, I'll give it a couple more days and if it doesn't ship I'll ask them to just ship the size I really wanted whenever they get it back in stock.

I'll keep you updated.
 
I ordered about 28ft of various 52100 on the 3rd and UPS tracking shows that it is at my local terminal to be delivered on Monday.
Not sure if that is helping anyone but I thought I'd post.

On another note I really wish he would get some 1084 back I really like that stuff
 
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