Has anyone actually used a CQC6 ?

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dd1967

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Has anyone out there actually used a CQC6 for real ?

The reason I ask is that I just have.

I am a Police Officer in the UK and late last night got into a fight with a guy who was out of his mind on drugs. Both my colleague and I chased him into a disused house where he decided he wanted to fight. After taking two cans of CS gas, he got really upset and we ended up in a free for all fight. I hit him so many times with my ASP that I bent it to the point of it being no use. (Rememnber we in the UK don't carry guns!). With no other alternative to me I reached for the CQC6 that was clipped to my trouser pocket.

Opening it, I took a swing at him just as he was about to hit my colleague with an crow-bar he picked up. My intention was to strike him across the left shoulder and hopefully make him see our way of thinking. As he had a leather coat on, I put as much force as I could into the swing. At the point of where it was going to stike him, I was sure I'd missed his arm itself as I only felt a minimal drag on the knife. Pulling back for a second strike, I was just about to hit out when he dropped to the ground screaming like mad !

He was eventually arrested and taken to hospital as the CQC6 had passed through a leather jacket, two shirts, a T-Shirt and his arm muscle. The drag I felt was from his bone !

And you know the only downside ? I have had to turn in my CQC6 as evidence till the trial, then MAYBE I'll get it back when it's over and now I can't order another one. Still, I suppose I'll just have to carry my CQC5 now !

Anyway, back to the topic, has anyone else used their CQC6 in a similar way, and how did it stand up to it's use. Incidentally, the blade on mine (after being wiped) showed no marking at all !
 
Knowing how the UK system works, I hope you get your CQC6 back sometime soon.
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Regards,

Ed
 
dd1967

It amazes me that ya'll aren't armed. I've spoken with cops in London in the past and they were not only armed with pistols, some patrol with MP5s in their cars. I'm stunned that in this day and age there are still places in the world that they don't arm Police.

Personally, I don't carry my CQC6. It's not a "Do you know what this knife is worth on the secondary market" issue. I carry a Commander everywhere and if I had an E1S-M, I'd carry it.

Glad to hear you got to wipe it down. Blood isn't something you want staying on your knife for months (or here in the US, where citizens are guaranteed a "Speedy Trial", years).

How did your department respond to your situation? I ask because it has come up in my department and while the citizenry is used to seeing were an officer shot an evil doer, I have often wondered what they would do it an officer hacked one up with a knife.

Take care
 
dd1967,
First off, I am glad to see that the conflict ended without serious physical harm to you or your partner. I have not used my CQC-6 for any cutting tasks so I am affraid that I am of lttle help. I do however have a question for you. Was your CQC-6 one of the older knives with only one bevel to the edge or is your CQC-6 one of the newer knives with the secondary bevel at the edge? Cheers!

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Chariot

The Emerson Forum is packed with examples of CQC6s, as well as pictures of other Custom and Production Emersons. You may want to check the string started two days ago called "Pic of CQC6", it has several:

http://www.bladeforums.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/000470.html

Or here is a picture of mine. (on the bottom) On top is an example of a CQC5 dd1967 mentioned.

Another reason for using this picture is to illustrate Ark's question. The CQC6 shown has a secondary bevel on it's edge, the CQC5 on top does not.

John
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John,

That CQC6 has a really small secondary bevel on the edge compared to the bead blasted blades with a secondary bevel. Is it just the angle which you took the picture.

BWT That's a really clear picture.
 
dd1967,
I'm glad to hear that you & your partner came out OK & weren't seriously hurt. Best of luck to you in getting back your 6. I guess you can say that your 6 probably saved you from serious harm or even worse.

Kindest regards,
David
 
Thanks you Sir

I had to go check after your comment and your right. The secondary bevel is thin. It's about 3/4 the width of a CQC7B I have.

John
 
dd1967, great job. I just used my brand spankin new six a few weeks ago. I used it closed to enhance a control hold during a forced vehicle extraction on a suspect attempting to flee from a major collision he caused. The six worked out great in a very discreet deployment (especially standing in the middle of a major Southern California freeway wearing shorts and a pair of sandals). The highly combative subject (who was also heavily under the influence of methamphetimines) immediatly submitted without having to fully deploy the blade, or me having to disengage and go for the .40 cal Glock I was carrying. It's also a great feeling when you can use your customs for what they were designed. My first CQC 6 was given to one of our SWAT paramedics who has carried it daily for about seven years. It has cut people out of cars, cut clothing off of injured subjects and been highly abused at the range with a variety of chores. Most collectors would cry if they saw what this thing has been through, but its the way it should be.

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A few quick replies to your questions.

My CQC6 (and the CQC5) both have a primary bevel only on the blade (and look superb).

In the UK we are not armed at all as a rule. We do have armed police officers who can be called in if there is an armed robbery for example, but these are two officers in a car armed with Beretta 92F's and H&K MP5's. There is also ony two of these cars on duty for the entire county in which I work at any one time. At no time were they called for the job we got involved in as it was not considered necessary by the chiefs.

Finally, you'll love this comment ! My inspector called me in last night about this incident and said that the Police force would have been better off if the guy had beaten us up with the crow-bar rather than me getting him with my CQC6 as it's going to cause no end of problems for the force and we'll have to probably pay damages to the guy we arrested.

Personally, I walked out of the office and checked my CQC5 was in place before driving out on patrol and would have no hesitation in doing it again. But there you go.
 
Don't ya' love Administrators?!

No offense meant to you dd1967, but I see something fundamentally wrong with the UKs system. Have you considered immigration to the US? (Not that our Administrators are much better)
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John
 
John,

I agree entirely, but when we have the situation that we do at the moment that it's the tool (or weapon if you like) which is 'bad' and must be banned rather than the person using it dealt with effectively, what can we do ?

And yes, I have looked at moving to the US and joining the Police Force there, but you have to be a US citizen to do that, or get citizenship within 3 years. Something I have been told is almost impossible.
 
Hey it is not impossible to become a US citizen. We have several oficers on my department that have become citizens. several from Central America and one from Egypt. If they can do it so can you . If you ever visit Topeka KS my friend the beer is on me. They have Guiness (I hope I spelled it right ) on tap at the place I hang out

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David,

To second Nyeti's comment, great job. Glad that the CQC-6 kept you and your partner relatively safe.

As for your "administrator", I choose to not say anything as my comments might prove me to be somewhat er...a...emm..."insensitive" on criminals rights issues and issues involving the greater good of the department.

I do have one question for you, a two parter.
Did it seem to make any difference that the knife was an "inefficient" chisel grind and that it was ground on "the wrong side"?
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Take care,
Derek

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Derek,

In all honesty, the chisel grind (and Tanto point) is my favourite so I am slighly biased here. I have to say though that I personally feel that the chisel grind gives a stronger blade cross section which may not have been important in this situation, but gives me more confidence if I have something like a Pit-Bull in a drug dealers house to deal with.

As for the grind being on the wrong side, well, who says it is ? I carry and use a CQC7, CQC6 (if and when I get it back) and a CQC5. These get used for just about any cutting jobs you can think of from cutting up an apple at lunch time to slicing open someones Jeans to give first aid in a road crash and just about everything in between and I've not had a problem so far. It works for me and so it must be right !

One other point for you as well, I have tried my CQC7 on an old set of body armour we have at the station for training purposes, and in a 'punch' motion, the Tanto blade drove right through. Cool Eh ?

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Derek,

I just want you to know, I laughed so hard at your question(s), that I think I hurt myself.
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John

(Help . . . someone call 911 . . . . .)

[This message has been edited by John Hollister (edited 07-14-2000).]
 
Is it just me, or do most people slur their words when their tongue is firmly pressed into their cheek?
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dd1967,

Good work! God loves Cops! Ours is an ugly profession...

-Scott
 
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