Has common courtesy gone by the wayside?

Ajack60 said:
When I sell a knife, I’ll keep the funds in my PayPal account until the buyer has received it and is happy with everything, then it becomes mine to spend. It makes things easier if a refund is in order. So, yes it’s part of the deal.
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Same here. I've had to issue a refund once and keeping fees in PP made the process simple so that both of us could easily walk away.

To the point of the thread: I usually get a confirmation of receipt, although I have had to follow up a few times before getting a response. I realize some people I've sold to may not spend as much time on BF as I do, so I try not to take it personally. However, I agree that a deal is not done until both parties are satisfied, and it is real hard to confirm satisfaction without input from the recipient. It's bad practice not to confirm receipt.
 
oldmanwilly said:
Same here. I've had to issue a refund once and keeping fees in PP made the process simple so that both of us could easily walk away.

To the point of the thread: I usually get a confirmation of receipt, although I have had to follow up a few times before getting a response. I realize some people I've sold to may not spend as much time on BF as I do, so I try not to take it personally. However, I agree that a deal is not done until both parties are satisfied, and it is real hard to confirm satisfaction without input from the recipient. It's bad practice not to confirm receipt.
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I agree that the other person Needs to be happy.

I don't like selling, I don't do it as often as I Should, but my last transaction was that I just sent him my knife......

I wanted him to feel it was worth it, and that he'd love it.
I know that's naive of me to trust people, but that's how I want to do things.
 
Good thread!

Well, I must admit that I for sure have forgotten to confirm receipt a few times. With the cross border shipping sometimes it takes a while and I just plain forget.

For the most part I confirm receipt and confirm that I’ve accepted the purchase.
When it comes to my work that I ship…I watch the tracking like a hawk. Haha.
 
First common courtesy went out the window, then common sense.

My mother's family are Sicilians from east coast of Texas, my dad Norwegian farmers from Iowa. We learned manners quick. I'm surprised I don't have scars from getting stabbed in the elbow for having it on the table. My dad was fairly strict about it, my grandfather was vicious about it. Grandpa had a wooden paddle too, though thankfully he never had to use it.

Here in the Chicago suburbs, if I hold the door for a woman, or offer to help an elderly person, it's like they've never seen anyone do that.

Maybe spending most of a year in a wheelchair taught me to appreciate what I have and help those less fortunate, especially the elderly and disabled.

As far as knife sales, I always keep in contact with the buyer or seller to make sure everything works out. I'm the nice guy who will accept a return if there is any problem.
 
Lately I've actually had some great conversations with members I've sold to after they receive their new knife. It's been a pleasant surprise.

Outside of the forum, however, "common" (sense, courtesy, culture...) anything is diminishing rapidly! Hold tight.
 
ArchVV said:
Lately I've actually had some great conversations with members I've sold to after they receive their new knife. It's been a pleasant surprise.

Outside of the forum, however, "common" (sense, courtesy, culture...) anything is diminishing rapidly! Hold tight.
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For sure. It's funny, my mother and I are selling/merging out family business with another agency. The guy we are selling to is 35, and one of the first things he said was "I'm not your typical millennial, I actually like to work." And it's true, I get emails from him at 9pm sometimes. It's good to see a younger person who isn't entitled and not wanting to work, etc. I see this a lot in my line of work, people with 30+ year old kids who never moved out, the parents still pay for their car insurance, cell phone, etc.

When I was growing up, you either moved out when were 18 and/or went away to college. You had a job in high school (I had a work permit at 15) and if you wanted something you paid for it.

I was born at the tail end of gen x so I'm not so far removed from some of this generation, but their actions and behaviors seem to age me at an accelerated rate.

I was forced to move home when I was 38. I was recently divorced and became so ill with liver disease I could not care for myself. It has been tough, but as soon as I was able to work again after my transplant, I paid rent, help with groceries, car insurance, etc.

I've faced a lot of adversity due to medical issues since I was 11, yet I powered through and worked most of my life, so it's hard to see some of this. My mother's good friend has a 38 year old son that lives at home, has never had a job other than briefly working at the movie theater while in college.

It's definitely a trend not to communicate upon receiving stuff. My grandma would often bitch that she would send money to her grandkids for Christmas and birthdays and never hear from them. Not a call, not a thank you card. So as an experiment one year she sent just a card, no money. You best believe my much younger cousins immediately called about it.

Most of the community here are good people, but I haven't sold much recently, but the most recent two I bought I did have good communication with, though one of them it was a bit one sided on my part.

I bought a custom from Jim Harrison of Seamus knives and was in constant communication with me on updates (I had him add a clip to the knife I bought) and also when their was a shipping issue. That's how business should be conducted.
 
I have bought and sold several lately on here. I always let the seller know I received the package and provide feedback. When I see that my sold product has been delivered, I send them communication verifying they received it if I haven’t heard from them by the time I see it. I’m always excited to get my packages! It’s disappointing when your expectations are not met but it happens a lot these days. It may be a grandpa thing to some but it’s common courtesy as you said.
How about “no problem” in response to a Thank you 🙄
 
Thanks for all the replies everyone.
I just have to add this: I just got home from going to a convenience store. As I was walking in a gentleman was on his phone (speaker so everyone else had to listen to the conversation) and walking toward the door. He was a ways out and I held the door waiting patiently for him to get there. Not a thank you, a nod or anything. Common courtesy 🙄
 
It sucks, Terry, I agree.

It's not just simple good form, IMO, even if they show delivered via USPS, USPS might have "lost" them. That does happen.
 
Terry M. said:
Thanks for all the replies everyone.
I just have to add this: I just got home from going to a convenience store. As I was walking in a gentleman was on his phone (speaker so everyone else had to listen to the conversation) and walking toward the door. He was a ways out and I held the door waiting patiently for him to get there. Not a thank you, a nod or anything. Common courtesy 🙄
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Maybe he identified as a woman. Then, its misogynistic to hold the door open for her. You never know these days 🤣
 
I always let them know, but some don't. That's fine. We aren't friends, im not trying to continue contact. If they consider the package arrival good, and don't feel the need to inform me, cool. I check the tracking, i know it arrived.
 
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