Hattori Knives

Ken, recently I acquired the knife on the pictures below from a good friend of mine.
I was told that the knife is the original SOG Trident S2 made in Seki Japan, and have absolutely no reason not to believe my friend,
my question is - what's the chance this knife to be made by Hattory ? Reading the thread ( very interesting btw, thanks for bringing it up !)
I wasn't quite sure if I got it right, so decided to ask...
This are his pictures, it's the knife with the SEAL Trident logo, TIA for any possible info.

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Poceh,

Your SOG S2 Trident was absolutely 100% made by Hattori. As were all of the "classic" SOG bowies from 1986-2006. SOG switched to production in Taiwan after that. Your Trident S2 falls under the "Classic Seki
SOGs that are fairly valuable and in demand by collectors.

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You will find this thread in he SOG subforum of interest:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1248962-SOG-and-the-Seki-Connection

And this site regarding collecting old SOGs:

http://www.sogknivescollectors.com/theknives.php

Regards
Ken
 
Mikael W said:
You got an amazing collection of Hattori's!
Thanks for sharing!

If the NL's counts in this thread, I have a few.

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For a big knife, I prefer the NL2 over the NL1, as it's easier to carry in the belt or store in a daypack.
In my kind of forests, I don't need more power, than what I get in an eight inch blade.

Regards
Mikael
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I'm in love with that coffin handled bowie to the left what is it.
 
kootenay joe said:
Ken, if you clean it up right after use i do not think the Curly Birch will show any changes. I field dressed a deer with mine and as you can see in the picture, handle did not take on any stains.
kj
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Joe, yes of course you are right. Fallkniven does not makes that can not be used. I'm just being a sissy LOL .I tend to become afraid of using very beautiful knives. Like I never use my FK NL1, but I use my CS San mai Trailmaster in my back yard. That handle on the Jarl/Juni is really something to admire.
But allow me to add that blood and animal entrail contact doesn't seem to "stink up" a handle quite like fish. Although it does depend to some extent on the size, species and numbers of fish one cleans and
dresses. I actually prefer the synthetic handles like on my F1/S1 because I can drop it into a bucket of water whole when finished and take it out later to wash clean and dry. I've never done that with any of my wood handled knives but maybe it's something I can do without worry?
 
KenHash said:
Another highlky regarded Kershaw knife is the double edged "Trooper" boot knife, as well
as it's smaller version the "Special Agent". These discontinued knives were also made by Hattori for Kershaw, and regarded very highly by those lucky enough to own them.
Hattori did make his version of the two but I believe they have been discontinued as well.
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Now, I've seen pictures of the Trooper model for years, but it took this thread (and these particular images) to awaken me to the sibling characteristics shared between the Trooper and the Al Mar Shadow series. Someone with more knowledge than I possess can confirm or deny, but I suspect that many of the early Al Mar fixed blades were Hattoris. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Al Mar is still a customer, as the Shiva sure appears to have Hattori lines.

Thanks much for this incredibly interesting and informative thread, KenHash! I have learned a lot, including the fact that I have several Hattoris that I never knew I had!

-Steve
 
I rubbed into the wood a few light coatings of mineral oil when i first got my Jarl. And i repeat this every few months. The wood does absorb the oil. I clean it under running warm water with dish detergent (not dish washer detergent) and a nylon brush and then dry with a cotton cloth & re-oil a few days later.
I think it could go into a bucket of water and be o.k., but the question is: for how long ? a few minutes, i say no problem; an hour or more, i don't know what might happen.
kj
 
KenHash said:
Joe, yes of course you are right. Fallkniven does not makes that can not be used. I'm just being a sissy LOL .I tend to become afraid of using very beautiful knives. Like I never use my FK NL1, but I use my CS San mai Trailmaster in my back yard. That handle on the Jarl/Juni is really something to admire.
But allow me to add that blood and animal entrail contact doesn't seem to "stink up" a handle quite like fish. Although it does depend to some extent on the size, species and numbers of fish one cleans and
dresses. I actually prefer the synthetic handles like on my F1/S1 because I can drop it into a bucket of water whole when finished and take it out later to wash clean and dry. I've never done that with any of my wood handled knives but maybe it's something I can do without worry?
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The SK's come with the Birch handles treated with boiled linseedoil.

I have treated the Juni with around 25-30 layers of boiled linseedoil, until totally soaked and sealed.
It only needs rinse with water and perhaps a drop of soap.


Regards
Mikael
 
KenHash said:
Poceh,

Your SOG S2 Trident was absolutely 100% made by Hattori. As were all of the "classic" SOG bowies from 1986-2006. SOG switched to production in Taiwan after that. Your Trident S2 falls under the "Classic Seki
SOGs that are fairly valuable and in demand by collectors.
You will find this thread in he SOG subforum of interest:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1248962-SOG-and-the-Seki-Connection

And this site regarding collecting old SOGs:

http://www.sogknivescollectors.com/theknives.php

Regards
Ken
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Ken, thank you very much for your prompt respond and info. As I mentioned - my friend is very good guy and I don't have even shadow of doubt that the knife is original, only wasn't sure about the Hattory part.
Very interesting links, thank you, I'll have what to read tonight :D
He also have one of the black Recon Bowies as the top-one on your display picture, but I don't think he'll ever sell it... :D
Best regards, J.
 
I started to be interested in Hattori knives as well, and got these three Hattori hunter knives. Two of them are made of Cowry-X steel and one of AUS8. They are probably the not functional knives of the world, as the tanto profile is very specific, however I love the purity of the design.

KD30-3717 Tanto Hunter
4" Cowry-X Damascus Tanto blade with small false edge on the back. 4-inch Hand contoured Ebonywood handle with hidden tang permanently fastened with solid Brass hilt and butt.
Cowry-X blade in 5.0mm thick, 100mm blade, 203mm overall, Weight 130g

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A closer look at the damascus blade which is apparently sharpened by Mr Hattori himself.

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I initially wanted to keep the two damascus knives, but I will have to send back one of them to the vendor because the handle has a slight finish issue.
 
Hattori is an impressive guy with an eye catching product. I've been aware of him since the late 80's when I first discovered how many different companies used this talented man. SOG & Al Mar knives were what peaked my interest in him. After Fallkniven started using him my appreciation for his work just grew even more. Also he does magical heat treats. I wouldn't want a knife in AUS 8 or 6 by any other maker. He does what Paul Bos does for Buck's 420 hc. I consistently visit JKD to oogle his offerings. Great thread!!! Thanks for starting it and the others you initiated as well.
Can't wait to see the new pro series he's done for Peter.
 
tuanito - I was not aware that the 3717 was ever made in Aus8 as I had only seen the Cowry-X and VG10 versions. If what you have is Aus8 then it would go back some years.
The reverse-tanto tip is called a "kiri tsuke" as opposed to the more familiar "kassaki, which comes from Kiri saki". I know that Hattori will attend to any finishing issues from first hand experience. You may want to mention the site below.

jfk1110- Thanks. Hattori is currently backlogged with orders (basically between his two OE customers) so the Pro will be a bit delayed it seems.

I started a site to put my mountains of Hattori info:

http://hattoricollector.com

Regards
Ken
 
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jfk1110- Thanks. Hattori is currently backlogged with orders (basically between his two OE customers) so the Pro will be a bit delayed it seems.

I started a site to put my mountains of Hattori info:

http://hattoricollector.com

Regards
Ken[/QUOTE]

Also spend time drooling there as well. Impressive & Congrats on owning all of those
 
jfk1110 said:
jfk1110- Thanks. Hattori is currently backlogged with orders (basically between his two OE customers) so the Pro will be a bit delayed it seems.

I started a site to put my mountains of Hattori info:

http://hattoricollector.com

Regards
Ken
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Also spend time drooling there as well. Impressive & Congrats on owning all of those[/QUOTE]

Thanks very much. I don't own every knife on the site. Many photos have been sent to me by friends and Hattori fans from several countries.
Eventually I will post a page wit my actual collection.
 
Ok, question: The San Mai TM was done by Hattori, but was it designed by Dan Maragni? From what I have gathered, Mr. Maragni designed the TM for Cold Steel and the similarly profiled Heavy Bowie for Ka-Bar.
 
Dan Maragni's credentials are miles long, and his long relationship with Cold Steel from 1982 as advisor then head of the Carbon V program from 1988-2006 is legendary. But I have not seen anything crediting him with having designed the TM per se. If you have any links I'd appreciate it for my own education. I think the question itself would probably be better raised in the Cold Steel subforum.
 
alas, I lack links to that info, although tried to dig up some and came empty handed. I remember a back and forth I had with Tooj (Paul Tsujimoto) in his questions thread when he was still working for Ka-Bar asking him why did the Ka-Bar Heavy Bowie had such a close resemblance to the TM, and he told me that both had been designed by Maragni. Further than that, I don't have more info.
 
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