Have we reached the pinnacle of knife development technology?

Hashishiin said:
I wonder HOW much of an improvement it is over LC200N or something, though.

I was looking at those Magnacut Emerson/Lionsteel Karambits and thought they seemed interesting, but have my doubts. It's like a stainless Cruwear, the way I understood it.
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Yep, that’s a good comparison. The advantage I have found I. Magnacut over LC200N is that it can get quite a bit harder and this has better edge retention. LC200N has better corrosion resistance, but it’s edge retention leaves something to be desired. Magnacut has superior edge durability.

I think technology will advance where sharpening is concerned. Maybe a computerized sharpening system that analyzes each particular blade, and the user can input the desired edge angle and if they want a mirror finish, course finish, etc. and the system does the rest.
 
shane45-1911 said:
That is typically true of anything new. Costs decrease drastically as acceptance and manufacturing streamlines itself.
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Almost. Costs do not always come down enough to make it affordable for the average person, and/or they do not always come down quickly enough for anyone to notice.

Bicycles are a really good example here. For a long time steel frames were king. You will still find them today on a lot of popular bikes. Aluminium frames were initially very expensive, but costs came down and now they are cheap. You also have titanium, which never really caught on because titanium is very difficult and costly to work with. Last we have carbon bikes, which did come down a lot on the low end but still cost too much for most people to consider even after all this time. They have a similar problem to titanium in that carbon frames are extremely costly to design and manufacture.

New and exotic materials are going to be difficult to produce and work with, and the degree to which the cost is able to come down will always depend on the nature of those materials. We are not likely ever to stumble on anything quite as abundant and easy to work with as iron. After all, we have already discovered every abundant element there is to find. There are no more to find.
 
jstn said:
Yep, that’s a good comparison. The advantage I have found I. Magnacut over LC200N is that it can get quite a bit harder and this has better edge retention. LC200N has better corrosion resistance, but it’s edge retention leaves something to be desired. Magnacut has superior edge durability.

I think technology will advance where sharpening is concerned. Maybe a computerized sharpening system that analyzes each particular blade, and the user can input the desired edge angle and if they want a mirror finish, course finish, etc. and the system does the rest.
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I would like that, because I am very lost when it comes to the idea of reprofiling without having access to a shop or grinders. I'd buy that.

Thanks for the hints, though. I already have my "karambits" set, so if I buy this here Magnacut Emerson, it will be a user of a hawkbill for me to test the steel in muddy, dirty conditions as my pruning and gardening knife.
 
Pinnacle is such a final word. Hopefully the human race does not nuke (or other WMD tech) itself out of existence first. That would really be the pinnacle.
There is something to be said of sticking to good enough until we are socially ready for technical advances. Ok that was off topic.

The answer is not by a long shot.
 
Guy McVer said:
Almost. Costs do not always come down enough to make it affordable for the average person, and/or they do not always come down quickly enough for anyone to notice.

Bicycles are a really good example here. For a long time steel frames were king. You will still find them today on a lot of popular bikes. Aluminium frames were initially very expensive, but costs came down and now they are cheap. You also have titanium, which never really caught on because titanium is very difficult and costly to work with. Last we have carbon bikes, which did come down a lot on the low end but still cost too much for most people to consider even after all this time. They have a similar problem to titanium in that carbon frames are extremely costly to design and manufacture.

New and exotic materials are going to be difficult to produce and work with, and the degree to which the cost is able to come down will always depend on the nature of those materials. We are not likely ever to stumble on anything quite as abundant and easy to work with as iron. After all, we have already discovered every abundant element there is to find. There are no more to find.
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You are taking this FAR too seriously. :p

And it is not a case of finding "every abundant element there is to find". We will MAKE a new one. Think outside the box, m'kay? :)
 
There's always the possibility that the world will devolve into a dystopian nightmare from which it may not recover or that we will destroy ourselves or be destroyed by some natural event, and those are possibilities worthy of consideration, but I refuse to give in to cynicism or nihilism and choose instead to believe that we will one day have food replicators, transporters, light sabers, holodecks, etc. I realize I'm mixing my sci-fi here 😄, but you see where I'm going. 👍
 
shane45-1911 said:
You are taking this FAR too seriously. :p

And it is not a case of finding "every abundant element there is to find". We will MAKE a new one. Think outside the box, m'kay? :)
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I always wanted a bike in marbled Carbon Fiber with anodized titanium inlays made of a Rex 121/Maxamet San Mai
 
shane45-1911 said:
And it is not a case of finding "every abundant element there is to find". We will MAKE a new one. Think outside the box, m'kay? :)
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Hate to burst your bubble but have you looked a periodic table at all? Do you understand what it represents? Those are atoms. They go up in mass and complexity as you progress through the table. All the basic slots are filled and there is no room to put a new simple element between the existing ones. It is physically impossible. Do you have any idea at all what it would take to create a new stable element at this point, and why it wouldn't remotely be feasible to make knives out of it?
 
Guy McVer said:
Hate to burst your bubble but have you looked a periodic table at all? Do you understand what it represents? Those are atoms. They go up in mass and complexity as you progress through the table. All the basic slots are filled and there is no room to put a new simple element between the existing ones. It is physically impossible. Do you have any idea at all what it would take to create a new stable element at this point, and why it wouldn't remotely be feasible to make knives out of it?
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Lol dude, again, you are taking this thread WAAAAY too seriously.

Science is fiction.........until it becomes fact. You are presuming we are the only life in the universe with a monopoly on technology and physics, and we have discovered all there is to know about the elements and physical chemistry. That's a rather arrogant, egotistical and narrow-minded viewpoint. :rolleyes:

We only know what we know based on a microscopically small sampling of possibilities, discoveries and existing human technology in an infinite and unexplored universe.

Check on this thread in 500 years, and I think you'll be surprised what has changed and/or been discovered.
 
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shane45-1911 said:
Again, you are taking this thread WAAAAY too seriously.

Science is fiction.........until it becomes fact. You are presuming we are the only life in the universe, and we have discovered all there is to know about the physical elements. :rolleyes:

We only know what we know based on a VERY small sampling of possibilities, discoveries and existing technology in an infinite universe.

Check on this thread in 500 years, and I think you'll be surprised what has changed and/or been discovered.
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I'm sorry. You're right.

Let me call Tinkerbell. I'll have her sprinkle us with fairy dust and we can fly to Never Never Land so we can ask Peter Pan to help us find a magic knife.

Please read a chemistry textbook.
 
Guy McVer said:
I'm sorry. You're right.

Let me call Tinkerbell. I'll have her sprinkle us with fairy dust and we can fly to Never Never Land so we can ask Peter Pan to help us find a magic knife.

Please read a chemistry textbook.
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LMAO dude. Yes, I am right. Are you really this thick that you can't comprehend what this thread is about? No one is saying these things exist today.

I am saying there is MUCH more left to discover in our universe, and what we have and what we know today will not be anything remotely close to what we will have and know 500 years from now.

P.S. I majored in chemical engineering and got my B.Eng. before I became a cop. I have the textbooks AND the t-shirt.
 
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shane45-1911 said:
P.S. I majored in chemical engineering
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Then you ought to know better, and you've done yourself a huge disservice.
shane45-1911 said:
I am saying there is MUCH more left to discover in our universe, and what we have and what we know today will not be anything remotely close to what we will have 500 years from now.
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The frontier of ignorance is apparently so vast that anything will fit inside of it.

Spectroscopy shows us that the established set of elements are are literally universal. You might need to go back to school.
 
Guy McVer said:
Then you ought to know better, and you've done yourself a huge disservice.

The frontier of ignorance is apparently so vast that anything will fit inside of it.

Spectroscopy shows us that the established set of elements are are literally universal. You might need to go back to school.
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We haven't even scratched the surface of our understanding of particle and elemental physics. Again, check back here in 500 years.

You are making the grand and arrogant assumption that we have discovered all there is to know about time, matter, space, physics and dimensions.

"The established set of elements are literally universal"?????? LMFAO, established by who? By scientists on a small, cosmically insignificant (except to us) planet called Earth, where the furthest we have stepped foot is the moon, and sent a few probes within our solar system? Yeah, we've definitely got everything all figured out and defined, and we are certainly qualified to be the subject matter experts for all things "universal." :rolleyes:

I will not debate this with you any more. This thread is not for you.
 
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shane45-1911 said:
We haven't even scratched the surface of our understanding of particle and elemental physics. Again, check back here in 500 years.
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Partcle physicas, no. Elemental physics, yes! Again, look at a periodic table. We have this elemental physics @#$% down pat, son. It's well established. There are no new basic elements to be discovered or created. It's physically impossible. Atoms are atoms. Read. That means if you create a new stable element, it's going to be at the end of the table, making it extremely heavy and complex, and beyond prohibitively expensive to produce. You should know better than to say we're going to do this and then make knives out of it. But you did. You absolutely did.
 
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