Having trouble deciding on CS or Spyderco.

Hey Guys..

Spyderco.......

Specifically a Waved Spyderco....
Once you've owned a Waved Spyderco, you've crossed a line, and you'll never turn and look back...

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Eric...
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Well i think i've made my mind for 1 thing. It's going to be a Spyderco. Now just wich type hehe

As for the Buck knives. I like them, but the origionall 110 and 112 etc. are verry heavy and slow opening folders. And the steel isn't realy up to date. I just wan't something different now.

The Spyderco's mentioned here are all verry interesting. Although some are reasonably short in comparison. ( don't know all types yet ;) )
I think the D' Allara might just be it. although i'm also looking at the Endura and Delica. But as mentioned, they are relativly short i think.

I am looking for a 50/50 blade. I find serrations verry handy and usefull for things. ( especialy cutting seatbelts after an accident! )

So there's still some doubt there wich to choose. Benchmade indeed has gourges knives, but they usually go up in price in comparison.
As for the sharpening of modern steels. I think i can handle that having worked in the slaughterhouse for some time. I usualy can sharpen them to cut my steak ;)

Thanks for all the advise so far. It's difficult hehe, all the numbers, types, sorts of steel. But we are getting there haha.
 
I would say get the Spyderco!! They are awesome knives. The D'Allara 2 DP is a most excellent knife!! And the ball bearing lock is smooooooooooooooooooth! It is a great knife.
 
another CS 4 inch blade tanto folder for $50 is the Recon 1

the Kershaw Cyclone has a 3 3/4 inch blade, and assisted opening that can be disabled

the Endura blade is about 4 inches, so it's not a small folder; and can be had with the wave opener.
 
I own both but prefer Spyderco and here is why.CS has frail serrations,Spyderco has robust serrations.CS has a great plain rdge,Spyderco has a great plain edge.Spyderco gets right back to you IF(but almost never needed) you have a QC/warranty issue.CS hasn't replied to phone calls or e-mails re: thumbstud on my voyager from two years ago.I really like the voyager series in plain edge,but Heaven forbid you should need a repair.YMMV.tom.
 
orthogonal1 said:
Since it looks like you keep your knives a good bit of time, I'd be hesitant to recommend the D'Allara at this time. Espescially as it will be your primary knife (maybe only one). Not a big fan of the Native as an only blade, either.

As mentioned, the Delica 4 or an Endura 4 may be a better choice.
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I'd be inclined to agree with you re the Endura versus the Native. The Endura is a heckuva knife, and I love mine with a depraved unholy passion. I picked up a Native III last week, just to see what the fuss is all about. Nice knife, but I doubt it'll ever edge out the Endura as my fave non-SAK EDC.
 
I'm sure you'd be very happy with the CS Gunsite. As an owner of several different Cold Steel knives I have been quite happy with them. And I am seriously not going to give a damn if the owner of the company is a somewhat eccentric character. That's not how I choose a knife. I don't own a Spyderco but I know they are fine knives also. Go find a cutlery store where you can view and hold both products. Then decide.
 
Ben Rumson said:
Go find a cutlery store where you can view and hold both products. Then decide.
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As a Spyderco fan, my advice is obviously biased. However, I do suggest that you follow Ben Rumson's advice and handle both models, that way the decision will be so much easier.

Also, be sure to inspect the box they both come in, and pay extra close attention to the warranty terms on the back of said boxes. Again your choice will be simplified.

Remeber to check the blade steel on both models, which you will find engraved near the bottom of the respective blades, near the handles. Again, the use of a steel composition chart will assist you in making a somewhat difficult choice even easier.

Happy hunting,
3G
 
The d`allara drop point is an amazing knife. It's great in almost every way. It's extremely (extremelyyyy) sturdy with dual steel liners and its bb lock, it's got a vg10 blade--by the way, it's the sharpest knife I've ever received in my life, including S30V knives from multiple brands, the FRN texture is grippy. It's a great knife.

It has one huge weakness though--it's gigantic when closed. Make sure you're okay with losing the pocket real estate before you get this one.

But I'd recommend one of a ton of other Spydercos before the CS. Not because I don't like CS (i'm ambivalent) but I just think Spyderco's designs are a lot more interesting.
 
My only gripe with Spyderco is their smallish blades. The blades you get are good, but frequently the blades are 3-inches or under. The Gunsite has either a 4-inch or 5-inch blade (and you can still find plenty that are AUS 8, not VG-1). The feel of the handle is very conducive to holding and cutting; even the larger Gunsite is a breeze to carry and I love the serration pattern.

Yesterday I bought a dehumidifier that was both taped and strapped. The plain edged cut the tape with no trouble; however, I wasn't able to get through those straps at all. The serrated part of the blade changed that in a microsecond and there was no bumpy tearing as there would be with a larger serration pattern.

In short, I recommend the CS, which can easily be employed in the field. A nice beefy blade, light, indestructable. The Gunsite is one of the best knives out there. Like I said, I carry the 5-inch every day in my front or back pocket.
 
glockman99 said:
I'm curious...Why isn't a Benchmade knife one of your choices? It's really hard to best the Axis-lock and the steel that Benchmade uses.:thumbup:.
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Benchmade Griptilian!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:
 
Artfully Martial said:
The d`allara drop point is an amazing knife. It's great in almost every way. It's extremely (extremelyyyy) sturdy with dual steel liners and its bb lock, it's got a vg10 blade--by the way, it's the sharpest knife I've ever received in my life, including S30V knives from multiple brands, the FRN texture is grippy. It's a great knife.

It has one huge weakness though--it's gigantic when closed. Make sure you're okay with losing the pocket real estate before you get this one.

But I'd recommend one of a ton of other Spydercos before the CS. Not because I don't like CS (i'm ambivalent) but I just think Spyderco's designs are a lot more interesting.
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Hehe, about the size. Ever carried a Buck in your pocket. They are heavy and large ;) I think the D' Allara is in the same region, only less weight, better steel and a lot more modern.

Iff all goes wel ( have to talk to the wife about it...Off course :grumpy: ) i'm going to order the Spyderco D' Allara later on today.

I was looking at the Endura and Delica but they are much smaller than the D' Allara. And since i do want a reasonable sized knife the D' Allara gets the thumbs up. De serration paterns etc. are all the same as is the steel etc.

Thanks for all the advise so far, and i'll let you all know when i ordered it :)
 
Confederate said:
My only gripe with Spyderco is their smallish blades. The blades you get are good, but frequently the blades are 3-inches or under. The Gunsite has either a 4-inch or 5-inch blade (and you can still find plenty that are AUS 8, not VG-1). The feel of the handle is very conducive to holding and cutting; even the larger Gunsite is a breeze to carry and I love the serration pattern.

Yesterday I bought a dehumidifier that was both taped and strapped. The plain edged cut the tape with no trouble; however, I wasn't able to get through those straps at all. The serrated part of the blade changed that in a microsecond and there was no bumpy tearing as there would be with a larger serration pattern.

In short, I recommend the CS, which can easily be employed in the field. A nice beefy blade, light, indestructable. The Gunsite is one of the best knives out there. Like I said, I carry the 5-inch every day in my front or back pocket.
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I must decent also and agree with Confederate. We could discuss other knives but if the choice is between only these 2, I have to go with the Gunsite also (I own both Gunsite models in AUS-8). If self defense is NOT a primary concern, then go with the Spyderco. But if it is (as much as I like Spydercos) I suggest the CS. I sure wouldn't want to be up against a 4" tanto blade (or a BIC pen, for that matter). Also, because of the CS handle shape, you can hold the knife in hammer, reverse, or icepick grip near the end of the handle and still have a strong, safe grip. This adds more than an inch to the length and in essence gives you a 5" to 5-1/2" blade. Much more formidable then the Allagra from a purely tactical view point.

Regards
 
Well, i just ordered the D' Allara.

Hope i like the Spyderco as much as you all do ;)
As for now, thanks for all the advise and when i get it i'll give a yell in the Spyderco forum hehe
 
Congratulations. Don't worry, it's unlikely that this will be your last purchase. Spydercos are outstanding cutters but, as stated, if you carry for defense, you might want to up the blade size a bit later on.

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Confederate said:
Congratulations. Don't worry, it's unlikely that this will be your last purchase. Spydercos are outstanding cutters but, as stated, if you carry for defense, you might want to up the blade size a bit later on.

D'Allara Review
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Well maybe your right.
I just love the Civilian G-10 ~ C12G

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But i'll have to work for a while to get that piece of steel :D
 
I'm very fond of my D'Allara Drop Point. If you wanted an overbuilt tank of a tough folder, with great bang for the buck, you got what you wanted. Self defense - the grip is extremely secure, the lock is very solid. I think you'll be happy.
 
Shaggy, I don't want to rain on your parade and as I've seen so many good reviews of the D'Allara I'm sure you'll be very happy with it, but I thought I should point out that you seem to have a misconception about some relative sizes; the blade of the Endura is actually LONGER than than the D'Allara and I believe that it offers better penetration due to its slimmer profile, which as some people mentioned earlier might be a concern.

I think the design intention of the D'Allara was mostly to be a hard-use utility folder. The Endura is a favorite because it is such a good value all-around folder, and once you add in the wave function it becomes very impressive in the SD department.
 
Shaggy8675 said:
Well that's 1 of the problems were i live. I canot use handguns, Sprays or batons etc.
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No, of course not. Only the criminals may. :rolleyes:


I would get just about any Spyderco over just about any Cold Steel knife.


I always have my knife handy in known troublesome places.
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It would probably be better if you just avoid the known troublesome places (unless it is absolutely impossible to do so).


-Jeffrey
 
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