Hawkbills, 1st Proto pics!

I like the Crows Nose, but would really like to see it with a mild reverse tanto added. That would get my interest level up. You could also add a little more curve to the edge, but it's still interesting as is.
 
Staighten out the curve on the hawkbill and you'd have a beautiful Whancliffe!

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Cougar,
Your thoughts are exactly what I was looking for. I appreciate your honest opinion!
99% of the knives I make are hunters and utility style knives. Wierd and Radical are not my usual styles. I must admit, I was looking for that apeal with these designs while trying to keep them functional.
The Crow Nose does need a little more curve. I has more curve than some Hawkbills but not as much as others. I WILL come out with curvy, slash only, thin edge, HAWKBILL!!
As far as the tanto, my main idea was that it would slash as well as any hawkbill while having a strong stabbing point like a tanto.
The holes are mainly for style but you can't believe how light the knife is for it's size!
I wanted a stronger point than what is on the Civilian and the Seahawk. The convex tanto point is very strong.
Thanks for you thoughts,
Neil

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[This message has been edited by Dr.Lathe (edited 24 November 1999).]
 
I like these knives but I have some thoughts. First the hawk bill. I think that the curve is right. What Andre did with the operator was to sharpen the back edge along two angles. This is kind of like a reverse tanto. I wish that I could draw a picture. This really adds to the combat usefullness to the knife. Too much hook and all you can do is slash, I hate to be limited in a panic situation. I agree on the "guard" on the back of the knife I would like just to see some thumb grooves.


On the tanto I wouldn't worry about the holes limiting the blade life I doubt if many people would use and sharpen a blade like that daily and then wear it out fast. I generally don't like holes and teeth on a blade but they do look kind of tough and will make the knife quick for those who prefer quick wrist movements to more gross motor movements.
 
Coyote,
In the picture it isn't realy that clear but the Crows Nose has a very curvy false edge on the top of the blade. It would be easy to go just a little farther with it and make it sharp! I considered doing this but for the prototype I wanted to keep the blade tip as strong as possible. It has been handled and used hard as sort of a utility knife over the past week by one of my co-workers!
Neil

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Going over what has been said.

On both knives, I personally like the finger notch. Very similar to Bob Kasper's design. I haven't had trouble with different grips or transitioning to other grips with this type of handle.

After reading some of the logic here, the thumb ramp on both knives might be a bit much. Possibly a smaller ramp with serrations, or a depression with serrations. Maybe even an even surface with serrations.

On the tanto, I think I would favor a higher grind and narrower edge profile instead of the holes in the blade. As far as the recurve and the "seconady point", I think it depends on how you look at it. To me, I see it as being very similar to an Emerson Commander. Instead of being a secondary point, it looks more like an acute "belly" for lack of a better description. A little more finger guard wouldn't hurt.

The hawkbill a little higher grind line and drop the handle some.

I still wannt them, with or without the changes. Just add the black Micarta or G-10 scales and I'm happy. It looks like you do some excellent work. Good lines and finish.

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I am wondering ifthe guard especially on the hawkbill is too much? Also if you put them in kydex please make it so that you can get a full grip on the draw. Please also keep them as tool steel not stainless. I will be interested in buying one when I can get the money saved up. Please keep us updated.
 
Coyote,
That is a minor change. On my Split finger grip Tacticals, I have done versions with very reduced guards. Same thing with the thumb "ramp". I have moved them forward on the Tacticals and left them off altogether. I find that some people like lots of gaurd, grip and texture on a handles, others like very little. It's much easier to remove than to add in this regard.

MDP,
Well then, it should be no problem!!! Mine are all D2...no carbon fiber at all!
Just kidding.....He does a fixed blade that looks like the LiteWave???? Is it THAT close or is this like infringing on Loveless for making a drop point?? This is a concern, I dont' want to P-off an established maker.
Thanks,
Neil

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[This message has been edited by Dr.Lathe (edited 24 November 1999).]
 
You all should definitly check out Dr. Lathes website. He makes many very well designed knives. I personally have one of his cordwrapped tantos, with titanium insert on order. I am anticipating it very much. Not only that but I have also ordered a titanium credit card knife from him. I have no idea what it looks like, but for the price, I figured I can't go wrong.

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I like the lower knife the best. What I would change is;
1. shrink it just a bit (1" or so)
2. Smooth out the points on the finger grooves a lot, so it's not so "pointy" in the handle area
3. Do some file work on the top and bottom edges, where the blade stops and handle begins

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Cool! The one on the bottom is awesome
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. IMHO, the one on top needs to lose the holes in the blade.

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Thanks Lynn!
I will be updating the site over the weekend. Lots of new Tanto Pics and new knives including a customer designed paring knife! And... BROWN, yes BROWN Kydex sheaths for my hunters!

Brian,
I was hoping to keep this model "full size". I have several other paterns for smaller neck knives that could be made into a Hawkbill. The first Hawkbill I every ground was based on my three finger neck Knife pictured on my webpage. It looked wild for a small knife.

Stompy,
Thanks for the Kind words! So far, is seems that the holes are a love/hate thing. It's no problem to use them or loose them. I was considering curved slots also but that would have been too time consuming!
Thanks again everyone,
Neil
 
You can see some of Warren's fixed blades in American Handgunner. There are similarities, but I don't see it as a rip-off. Certain ideas and designs are just hard to improve on. That is why we see similarities in many designs.

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[This message has been edited by Dirk (edited 25 November 1999).]
 
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