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i'm sorry, i didn't see the post, so i am a little late to answer.
we regulalry get a bunch of them directly from Cold Steel and QC them - the ones we keep we call "Handpicked" - the others we send back - Cold Steel has been very kind about the whole process - and the Handpicked hawks do vary, but within acceptable, tight, limits;
some are more massive than others - that's okay, we just split them up for different uses.
there are some heads we keep that are not perfect, and we usually do studies with them, like altering the silhuette to study the physics for new ideas, etc.
then there are the exceptions;
some of the heads just "sing" - they are ugly as hell but they just work fantastically - those are my favorites to work on.
we had to reject the last batch sent to us, in total - our concerns were limited to cosmetics - heat treat and utility was correct, as far as we could tell in our tests - Cold Steel has told us that they will be delayed until February 2009 for new Trail hawks, and i believe the Norse Hawks - i think they are re-tooling, and i expect that they will turn out great.
- that said, there should be a lot of perfectly-good stock at cutlery shops and internet sources available to you - just inspect the hawks closely for trueness, or ask the shippers to do it before sending the hawks....
little things, like uneven grinds, can turn a dud into a beauty with a little stone work around the fire - and the personal attention you give your hawk will guarantee it stays a favorite IMHO.
after talking about all that rubbish, probably boring your lights out, let me try to make it up to you - when we get our new shipment of Handpicks, we will offer some here, if that is alright.
HTH.
vec
some are warped a little bit
we regulalry get a bunch of them directly from Cold Steel and QC them - the ones we keep we call "Handpicked" - the others we send back - Cold Steel has been very kind about the whole process - and the Handpicked hawks do vary, but within acceptable, tight, limits;
some are more massive than others - that's okay, we just split them up for different uses.
there are some heads we keep that are not perfect, and we usually do studies with them, like altering the silhuette to study the physics for new ideas, etc.
then there are the exceptions;
some of the heads just "sing" - they are ugly as hell but they just work fantastically - those are my favorites to work on.
we had to reject the last batch sent to us, in total - our concerns were limited to cosmetics - heat treat and utility was correct, as far as we could tell in our tests - Cold Steel has told us that they will be delayed until February 2009 for new Trail hawks, and i believe the Norse Hawks - i think they are re-tooling, and i expect that they will turn out great.
- that said, there should be a lot of perfectly-good stock at cutlery shops and internet sources available to you - just inspect the hawks closely for trueness, or ask the shippers to do it before sending the hawks....
little things, like uneven grinds, can turn a dud into a beauty with a little stone work around the fire - and the personal attention you give your hawk will guarantee it stays a favorite IMHO.
after talking about all that rubbish, probably boring your lights out, let me try to make it up to you - when we get our new shipment of Handpicks, we will offer some here, if that is alright.
HTH.
vec
some are warped a little bit
Hi,
You'll find that some Trail Hawks come with a retaining screw in the head and some don't. The ones I have --I bought three after seeing some of the wonderful creations on this forum -- don't have the screw.
I can't explain the thinking behind the differences in design. Perhaps some of the more experienced forumers can.
Straying off topic --- I've used mine while pottering around the yard and much prefer the Rifleman's Hawk for its heft. The Rifleman's Hawk worked swell when I need to chop a 12" coconut tree trunk. I brought out three hawks for the task - a Trail Hawk, a Rifleman's Hawk and a Fort Turner Iroquois hawk and like the Rifleman's Hawk best. The Iroquois was forged and sharpened very nicely but I found it was too light for wood work.
I guess you might want to check with various internet stores what sort of Trail Hawk they stock (that is, with or without the retaining screw). I bought mine for around $19 apiece.
Cheers.
You'll find that some Trail Hawks come with a retaining screw in the head and some don't. The ones I have --I bought three after seeing some of the wonderful creations on this forum -- don't have the screw.
I can't explain the thinking behind the differences in design. Perhaps some of the more experienced forumers can.
Straying off topic --- I've used mine while pottering around the yard and much prefer the Rifleman's Hawk for its heft. The Rifleman's Hawk worked swell when I need to chop a 12" coconut tree trunk. I brought out three hawks for the task - a Trail Hawk, a Rifleman's Hawk and a Fort Turner Iroquois hawk and like the Rifleman's Hawk best. The Iroquois was forged and sharpened very nicely but I found it was too light for wood work.
I guess you might want to check with various internet stores what sort of Trail Hawk they stock (that is, with or without the retaining screw). I bought mine for around $19 apiece.
Cheers.
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i think the non-screw heads are some of the first-runs - every one that i have seen these days has the screw, which i take out when i re-handle mine.
i hear ya on the Rifleman's Hawk's useage - but folks need to distinguish between an axe and a hawk, which can't be overemphasized IMHO...;
a proper hawk will do the work of an axe (a little slower, but it will hold its own) but it will be a lot lighter weight, and a superior weapon to anything axe-like.
a Rifleman's Hawk is actually an axe, if you observe its physical traits.
chop that poll off of the Rifleman's and you will enjoy it even more, i'll betcha.
here's an example (foreground.)
:thumbup:vec