Head Injuries and more Tics

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Last Week my two year old boy fell down the very steep and long stairs to the basement. He is now slurring his words a little- just not as clear as he was, goes on crying jags, and has a few other signs of not being 'right'.
MY five year old also had head injuries before 3 years of age. As you know, the brain is not attached very well before the age of three, and bumps can do micro damage, the blood vessels tearing away in small areas, and those parts of the brain not being oxegonated do not grow as they would have. This is why one does not throw a baby into the air; the landing hurts them, even in your arms.

I could just kick something, or kill something. The five year old is now fine- by any standard he is bright, but before his head injuries at age two he could memorize and repeat entire Bible verses at Church. He cannot today. Some of that is due to the maturational development- he was at the cusp of new language skills, and what is simpler and more defined for a two years old becomes exponentially more complex as he makes the next language and self development step.

Now I have another two year old hurt. He was at the top of the stairs, which he takes very carefully, but because of the excitment of a guest being downstairs I think he just went too fast. The guest is the same boy who helped injure the first son's brain, so I'm not happy. He's not a bad kid, didn't do anything wrong, but I'm not happy- or particularly fair. I don't have to be. He once slammed an iron gate into my little guys head against a concrete wall, and his mommy, unwilling to see the Monstrosity, said he didn't mean it.

Before I decide to destroy all who injure my family, I have to look at my eldest son, who out of jealousy caused several significant blows to his brother's head also. And of course, I could destroy myself for somehow not being around or aware or quick enough to fix all of this. What am I saying anyway, I once dropped my oldest on his head from a baby seat straight down four feet onto the carpet- on Christmas day!! Let the Games begin.
Yes, I suspect my littlest son will be OK. I don't anticpate seizures or anything. He wasn't knocked out, pupils responded well to light, and the behaviors he has now are to be expected when there is a injury, but can be overcome.

This subject hurts me. When I was 8, I was knocked out rather severely and could not ride my new Christmas bike for over six months. There were severe headaches for many years afterwards. I guess like the subject of spiders and snakes, which some of us dwell upon with disproportionate concern, I'm a little over-sensitive about injuries, and head injuries in particular.

Then my eight year old was bitten by a Tic, didn't realize it, thinking it was a peice of skin, and scraped it off his back. His mother thought the head was still on the Tic, but I have my doubts. A quarter sized red mark apeared, with a white center. Initially both my son and I felt a little hard something catching my fingernail as I probed. I couldn't really see it, though, and left it alone after cleaning the bite area. We have a lot of tics here. Come to Montana, where the Tics are free!!! Getting bitten is not a big deal, but this inflamation is of concern.

Naturally, I call a hospital. You know, beside once being a Psych Nurse, I read things. Unfortunately, a lot of the data runs out of my head like water in a catheter, and I have more of a sense of things than a concrete picture. (No- this is just me- too many years of drinking, and waaaaay tooo abstract an intellect. ) But I want to reclarify the Lymes Disease issue. I'd just read about it here again, so had that fresh, but wanted local comment.

I don't think the Nurse knew what she was talking about. She wanted him brought in. They always want to see them. What a surprise. I once had a Tic head left in which resulted in a huge red patch and even bullseye marking. I don't think it was Lymes disease though. Just 'reaction to foriegn protein." I'm not driving 200 miles to a Nurse who is on shaky ground- she also says there is no known case of Lymes Disease in Montana.

"The head of Fish and Game has Lymes Disease." I tell her.
"Oh, well, maybe he moved here."



She might even be right- I don't know. But I do sterilize a needle and poke around on my son's back. Real good idea- stab an infected area looking for something which cannot be seen. I knew better, but because of the earlier inspection in which both my son and I felt something I decided it was worth a try. The nurse also told us that the kid should be seen because he was a kid, or that the head might travel through the blood stream. I didn't believe either theory. It would have to be one in ten million to have a tic head floating upstream. Doesn't mean I'm not watching all this.

I call another hospital. Now I get different advice. They think he should be seen but say it can wait until the holiday weekend is over. They don't know for sure if Lymes disease always has a allergic reaction.

Guys, I could go on and bore you with tedium. But there's nothing in it for any of us. I'm trying to tell you things happen, and the solutions are imperfect, and we do what we can. I don't like it one bit. I think it stinks to holy Hell and I wish there were more.

I'm watching both injured children. The Hospital isn't going to stick a sautering iron in the skull of the kid who fell- you know- maybe rewire a couple loose ends? And the ER staff aint going to be able to tell me sh-t about Lymes disease. I've left a message on my regular doc's phone and I'm driving a couple hundred miles tomorow to have these things checked out. We'll get some labwork and some antibiotics just to be safe.
Please don't give me medical advice. That isn't what this post is about. It's about being sorry. Sorry I can't fix everything. I didn't even tell you of the stove wiring that went 'pop' yesterday....replacing a stove top that could have been fixed for one she wanted more but it didn't have a vent and how good do these vents work anyway and where is that kid and why is he crying again? That's my life. My friend John Shirley called me in the middle of this and tried to help.

And Finally, I'm tired of saying dumb things. I will all my life- it's my Karma, a silly cross I throw around. I could write threads of ridiculous unneccesary messes I've created, of hurting people for no reason, and even misrepresenting myself as I do. Almost crazy- the things we do, I just have a little more of it than some folks. But if you're feeling like that, and then your kids are hurt, and you can't fix them or the stove, what do you think you do?

Beats the hell out of me. It's fingerends scraping along asphalt. And it's humility. It's prayer too, if you can get there and remove the muffle that seems to hold your brain. I call it the cardboard. Silvia Plath called it the Bell Jar. I hate that darn stuff. At least all this brings myself back to the fore.
Anyway, this is where I've been for a few days. I know you know what I mean.

munk
 
Munk, I do hope the baby is going to be OK. I'll pray for you all. Take care up there. I hate it when the little ones get hurt :grumpy:
 
munk said:
The five year old is now fine- by any standard he is bright, but before his head injuries at age two he could memorize and repeat entire Bible verses at Church. He cannot today. Some of that is due to the maturational development- he was at the cusp of new language skills, and what is simpler and more defined for a two years old becomes exponentially more complex as he makes the next language and self development step.

If this is of any consolation to you, kids can apparently memorize words like a parrot - I used to recite, err, "read", a book of children's poems that my grandmother used to read to me - I identified the poem by picture next to it and then recited it but the elders knew I was just faking it because I'm vision impaired and there was no way I'd read that text even if I actually understood it. This is ow kids' brains work - before they start adding sense to it it's just "cool" to them, repeating things like automatons. There's nothing wrong with your kid in this regard, I'm sure he's perfectly fine.
 
You feel so helpless with a sick or injured child... there's so little you can do. Worry won't help. Kids are resilient- he may snap out of it soon. Or grow out of it. Will do what I can...


Ad Astra :(
 
faramir- I agree. But this kid was special, (and still is) we have a huge sprawling house. He could tell you the location of his juice cup regardless of where he'd left it. You'd have to see this to appreciate it- 'next to the robot, by the red pillow, next to the window and the legos'. My wife is a child psychologist. We know he was damaged a little. I do feel better; there's been a cold lump of ice in my belly for a week. I remembered my oldest once had a tic that ballooned. No one caught it in time. I pulled it off, making a mistake removing him and some of the Tic's material undoubtedly went back into my son. He had a nasty lump that took a couple months to go away. The hospital nurse would have a fit if she'd seen that.
I used to go into the first head bumped kid's room late at night and just pray for him. We did have a Doctor take a look- as I suspected- he was fine. That is, the only changes there Parents would know; not the medical profession. The recent one is going to be fine, I have little doubt. He's up from his nap right now and I'm very pleased to hear him as I type.


munk
 
I can come and help you beat up the stairs...but I won't help you beat up yourself. Stuff happens...something causes it...it happens because it's supposed to happen.

Go get a hug from your boys...

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All you other guys don't got to read this...

Dear Munk,
Being a Dad is a bear. You don't hear much about it these days. The world being what it is. You don't hear about it cause guys like you are sucking it up and dealing with the hard stuff...and not talking on Oprah and Dr. Phil about getting in touch with their feelings.

That being said, all of us feel your pain and anguish. Seeing your boy...bright and shiny as a new penny...suddenly not the same...is like watching a slow motion of rock being thrown through the stained glass window on God's very own chapel.

These days I spend about 99% of my time trying to make sure I have done everything I can to make our house...our yard...our street...and everywhere my daughter visits as safe as possible...and for a certainty...I know I can't make it all OK....and still I keep trying.

You have my respect...for caring so much about your babies. If there is anything I can do...just name it.

And NEVER apologize for a thread like this one...if folks don't like it...that's tough cookies!

Shane
 
That's a shame. Poor little guys!

My friends girlfriend fell off a rock ledge near his house and had a concussion.

She was fine. Memory and all was ok but she was unable to have an orgasm for nearly a year after. I guess it just messed up that part of the brain.

I had a claimant who had Lymes and before somebody finally tested her they thought she was nuts because it is real uncommon here.

Munk, one thing you might want to look up is "post concussional syndrome" sometimes it can cause stuff like you are describing. Sometimes there's something you can do for it, sometimes not but eventually it does get better most times.

One other claimant I had I was reading his records and he was describing these problems thinking. He was a highly educated engineer and noticed problems. They sent him for this neuropsych screening and they did the test to test for stuff like that- nothing. Then as I read on they test him over and over with more sensitive testing they would never use normally (this guy had good insurance) and finally found a deficit in one area. I was amazed they could locate this specific problem, and that he was self conscious enough to be able to even notice it, but I guess he used that part of his brain for the highly technical job he did. He was not found disabled of course, he had more brain function left than most of us normally, but it was fascinating to read.
 
Hey Munk?

You're doing fine.

I know these things.

Save your posts for when the kids grow up. Print out a copy and stash it. They are love.
 
another thanks for the read. I feel your pain .. just remember to breath and stay calm.. things happen we just have to deal with it best we can.. My 2 year old daughter did a crash test rating on our inn tabel next to the couch the other day right on the bridge of her nose.. I was about to get rid off all the tables lol take care
jeff
 
My friends girlfriend fell off a rock ledge near his house and had a concussion.

She was fine. Memory and all was ok but she was unable to have an orgasm for nearly a year after. I guess it just messed up that part of the brain.>>>>>>>> Hollow


LOL. I suspect there were other factors, perhaps not recognized by the woman or her boyfriend/husband, for this inability.


munk
 
Friend Munk, you and I both remember serious injuries that worried our parents sh__less. I had a fall backwards off a very high porch when I was four, an auto accident put me entirely through a windshield at ten (Grandpap's driving) etc, etc. As a father of five, I've watched helplessly as one of mine was hit by a car. I am as sure as I can be, that God in his infinite wisdom won't give you more than you can handle. The kids will be O.K., but we'll pray for them from here anyway--never hurts. God bless you and yours...
 
munk said:
My friends girlfriend fell off a rock ledge near his house and had a concussion.

She was fine. Memory and all was ok but she was unable to have an orgasm for nearly a year after. I guess it just messed up that part of the brain.>>>>>>>> Hollow


LOL. I suspect there were other factors, perhaps not recognized by the woman or her boyfriend/husband, for this inability.


munk

Possible I guess, but he's a doctor and she is a nurse so they actually had it checked out.
 
If you say so, Hollow. That's one for the books. I'm willing to believe you. I am going to check it out with several neural type physicians I know, because it sounds about as nutty as a fruit cake.

Jurrasic- it's just the head blows occured before they were three, and the changes were subtle but noticable. By the time I was 10, I'd been in ER so many times Special Investigators were interviewing my folks- and this was well before the Modern Child Protection Services of Today. (barring Florida, of course! ) I can handle kid past three better than before. It's not fair. Even my severe concussion at 8 was nothing compared to this. That's my opinion- because it happens before significant physical protection. You can't take it back and it changes the way growth occurs in the future.

I am a great believer in keeping on- my Father once calculated with the million dead brain cells 'they' used to say occured with each beer he was about brain dead, and he was not a heavy drinker.

munk
 
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