Heat Casualty

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I wanted to tell a little story about yesterday:

Here goes:

The FL Trail, starting at Juniper Springs and going to FR-10. The naked people were still at Hidden Pond, but clothed this time. I think they live there.

21.45 miles of SUCK. I was a heat casualty for the first time in my f*cking life, an actual heat casualty...as in, seizure and maybe death was very close. This sh!t happened at around mile 15 or so, in a 45 minute time span.

Both calves locked in the foot pointed down position and continued to tighten beyond the point that my feet could no longer tilt downward. I fall over, and it hurts severely. My pulse gets faster and faster, and I start to fade out. I'm out of the 1.5 gallons of water and electrolyte mix and food I brought and still have 6 miles to get back to my vehicle. I roll over on my back and try to control my breathing to relax my pulse for about 30 minutes; it doesn't work. My arms start tingling bad and start to curl up; I can't move my hands more than about 6". I jerk my body as hard as I can and knock my pack over, and shimmy up to it and miracle my cell out and holy jesus I have signal. I'm almost totally incoherent, and can barely speak at this point. I call my Mom and ask her to call Juniper Springs and tell them that I'm not going to make the 5:00 closing deadline. At least, that's what I was trying to say. She calls 911. I call her back to tell here my coordinates, and they come out all f*ucked up. I am now lying on my back again and throw up everything I've eaten all damn day all over myself, in my Real Deal Brazil hat (I'm not washing it either, which just adds to its character)...everywhere. I continue to dry heave for about 3 more hours. It's the only thing that kept me conscious, even though I couldn't form sentences or move.

911 calls me and has me call them back so they can get a fix on my cell, and I stay on the phone with 911 for 4 more hours or so. During this time, after 2 hours, my legs and arms start to work again. I move on down the trail, cross the creek, walk some more and collapse. I move down the trail some more, and this is where I remain until the Sheriff's helicopter finds me, which took a long time. It took even longer for the Medics to walk to me, once they realized they couldn't land the helicopter or drive anything to me. By this time, I've had a little water and am feeling mobile, and we all walk out, at night, blazing our own trail through the woods like bulls in a china shop. The blazing the trail part I thought was stupid; I told the deputy I would stick to the trail because I know it, if it were me.

21.45 miles from Juniper Springs to FR-10 to the Sinkhole back to FR-10 and Juniper Springs. I had originally intended to just og to Hidden Pond and back, ~12 miles; but no, I pushed on, and on, and finally made it to FR-10 when I saw a sign for a sinkhole. I just had to go see the Sinkhole, which added about 1.5 hours of hiking, which made me late. I was moving at 5-6mph pace for over an hour without any water when my body said, "I'm done."

My new motto: You're not pushing it until you need to be medivaced out of the woods and walk out instead.

All joking aside, the Sheriff's Office, the Fire Rescue, and the park personnel went above and beyond to take care of me. I feel like a total asshole for being a heat casualty pussy and wasting a crap load of county money; but I respect the guys that came to my aide even more than I did before.

The good news out of this, is I'm improving for Bataan in March, and haven't died yet. :D Some things I've learned about my body/mind: There's nothing I can do when my body just totally stops working; other than that, I have full control and have no issue pushing through pain and weakness. The bad news is, I have to experience something before I can fully understand it; an unfortunately being a heat casualty was one of those things that's never happened before, so...
 
What would have happened without a celphone? Talk about close call. Like by the skin of your teeth.

I hear once you have heat stroke your more susceptible to it from then on.
 
Wow, I'm glad you made it.
I recently found out what dehydration feels like and don't ever want to repeat it.
There cannot be enough warnings about what heat and lack of water can do to us.
 
Hey man, glad you made it out.

Look at the bright side:
1.) You didn't die
2.) You learned where your body says "F-you" and won't push it that far again.
3.) You learned that you MUST carry water, and you MUST replace it.

Here's what I try to do, especially here in FL.:
I carry 2 1-qt canteens and a 2-qt canteen.
I start out drinking a quart of electrolyte mix before leaving the car/house.
I make myself drink a quart an hour, whether I feel thirsty or not. (Little rule of thumb I was taught: when the average person first feels thirst, they are already down a quart).
Once I drain my 2 1-qt canteens, I refill them from teh 2-qt, and immediately seek water, and refill the 2-qt, dropping in 2 or 3 (depending on the water source) MP1 tablets. So the water is pretty well purified by the time my 1-qts are empty again.
 
Heat Casualty and pussy usually don't belong in the same sentence. You now know why heat casualties become heat casualties and what it feels like to be one.

Nearly killed you.

TF
 
Thank goodness you are okay. At least now, you will be able to recognize the symptoms for yourself and also for others. I think we all have some lessons learned the hard way. Just make sure you don't repeat your mistakes! Take care!
 
Glad to hear that you are ok. I had a heat stroke in 1988. Doc thought I had spinal menaginis and sent me to the emergency room. When they did the lumbar puncture to draw some spinal fluid to check they couldn't hardly get any. They set me up in a room and over a period of 3 days I took in about 12 large bags of fluids. My body sucked up the first 2 bags in less than an hour. Docs said I wouldn't have made to the next day if I hadn't gone to my doc when I did. My tolrance for the heat has gotten worse every year since. Take care, Randy
 
Glad to hear you made it out ok. A 5-6mph pace is a darn good pace in the FL heat with a pack, etc. I wonder how much time/distance was saved while blazing that trail instead of sticking to the trail that was already there.

Good thing you had a cell phone.

What did the Sheriff's office say about you moving from your original location when you called in and they got a lock on your location?
 
Damn. Talk about a close call. I'm glad that everything turned out for the best. This is definitely a 'teachable moment' as regards the importance of hydration and temperature control. It could be a case study for the next edition of Cody Lundin's 98.6 Degrees.

All the best,

- Mike
 
I thought I had prepared pretty well for yesterday's hike. I always drink about 1-2 gallons of water/day. The day before, I made sure I salted the heck out of my carb/protein rich food. I had also been drinking 3 Emergen-C mixes/day since Wednesday. during the hike, I consumed 2 sets of (3 Emergen-C mix + 1 Propel mix), and my food (2 bananas, 1 apple, 4 protein bars, salted sunflower seeds).

Anyways, when I moved twice, the Sheriff's Dpt had not yet located me; I was moving toward a burned-out area where they could see me from the air, in addition to crossing the waist-deep creek so they didn't have to.

While I do think the cell saved my ass, in reality the "treatment" was resting for 3-4 hours, and the medics gave me a little water.

5-6mph pace is fast for me; I was trying to haul ass back to the park before they closed. My typical pace is 3-3.5mph with my ~15lb pack. I try to pack light, but weight adds up quick.

Pack, water, filter (which I left behind this time), tarp, rain-coat, food, first-aid, camera, spare batteries, sandals for water crossing, a few knives, emergency/signaling/navigation stuff, spare clothes and 5 pair of socks. I said ~15lbs, but my typical daypack feels heavier than 15lbs; I need to weigh it.

Some areas to shed weight:

Replace tarp and rain coat with a sil poncho.
Do I really need 4 knives, and 3-4 sets of 100' of 550 cord?
Do I need bino's that I've used once in the last 8 hikes?
Do I need a full map, or do I really just need a color copy of the section that I'll be in?
Do I need 2 GPS? No.
Do I need to carry the spare clothes or can I leave it in my vehicle?
Maybe a lighter pack.

I carry a lot of redundant stuff for no other reason than redundancy. I need to see if I can loose some of this stuff and squeeze another 3L bladder in there. I'm not opposed to refilling water; but a lot of places I go do not have water refill points so I would rather train to carry everything I need.
 
Thanks for posting your experience for others to learn from. I'm really glad to hear you made it out ok. The irony being that Pitdog just posted yesterday about how he went hiking with NO water and said he felt how easily one could get into trouble as he was getting pretty dehydrated.

Glad to have ya here still :thumbup:
 
I down 2 - 3 liters before i leave (en route to the trailhead), then I drink every 15 minutes, no exceptions. Every 2 hours i drink an additional liter with re-hydration minerals added. Has worked for me. I'm also one of those people whose doctor has recommended i consume MORE salt (sodium) in my diet. so i always carry salt packets with me too. Really helps with any cramping.
 
Glad you made it ok Bud !!

I had my close call a few years back, up here in Md., on the potomac river.. I felt it coming on early enough and was able to wade to shore.. I then emptied my pockets, and tossed my pack on the shore and sat right down in the water to cool off enough to get my vision back.. I then crawled over to my pack and dug out one of my canteens that I'd neglected to drink, and tore open a packet and got what I could into it, and started drinking along with sliding back into the water some more.. Luckily my Best friend knew what time I was to be back and where I was heading, and came loking for me since I was late.. By that time I was able to get back to my truck and fired it up and got the AC going along, and was calling him when he pulled up, with his wife.. They took me home, and watched to make sure I didn't need to go to the ER(his wife's a trauma nurse)..

Needless to say I didn't get as bad as you but it was just as scary..
I've now kept in the habit of keeping food and LOTS of water with me when I go hiking or whatever, with extra in the truck..

Again, glad you made out, and leared from it.. :thumbup::thumbup::D
 
I learned how important rehydrating frequently is while working on sporfishing boats. Ive had my hands/fingers curl up from dehydration and once had a passenger on my boat in as bad or worse shape as WULF described. He had been drinking beer during the fishing trip and refused the gatoraid i kept trying to get him to drink.After he succumbed he couldnt keep it down.I had a ambulance waiting for him when we docked.

The big lesson i learned about dehydration is that WATER isnt ENUFF, ive become dehydrated while drinking water and working on a boat. Gatoraid or something else that replace,s what you lose by sweating is essential.
 
wow, talk about going to the edge and back. Glad you are still here to tell us about it.
 
Here's some pics from before things went...less than good.

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What clothes were you wearing?

You are moving fast at 5-6mph
 
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I went through heat exhaustion earlier this summer, the pain is almost unbelieveable.

I'm a water nut now.
 
5 or 6 mph is fast for the heat here, course you know that now. Lighten up the pack, no you don't need 4 blades for a day hike or half the other shit you have in the pack. Sounds like you did all the pre hydration thing ok, might have just been a bad day for you. Don't run your self to hard for the next couple weeks, you will find your going to be a little weak.
 
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