Heat Treat Oven (Help)

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greeting's all im trying to replace the controller on my heta treat oven ,i fried the old one !! ive been looking at the PID controller's and would really appreciate any help/advise you can give me on this . are these accurate enough to use for HT should i use something else . im hoping for a power /digital readout kind of thing . mostly for some stainless i got for some project's
 
tell us a bit more about yer setup. Also, we've had a few
threads recently about home made HTOs, there's wealth
of info you can use in there.

Assuming you have intact K-type probe, heating spiral and
controlling SSR, all you'd need is a PID controller. Avg going
price on Ebay appears to be in $35 range.

I advise you look for one that is powered by line voltage,
as opposed to requiring 12V DC and such. All PID controllers
will have ability to work with K-type TC, drive SSR.
 
Rashid
Thank you for responding ,i looked at the other thread but did not wan't to "Hijack" so i thought of asking on my own . Basically i got a "Pro" box from another maker that had a Analog Pyrometer,K thermocouple and infinity switch .the insulation sucked so i wrapped it in kaowool and got 1600 but fried the Pyrometer in the process it's placement was not very good !! So i have about a 12 inch square box that is about 18 long with coils /thermocoupler intact id like to use a P.I.D can you recomend one where it takes normal power and can reach 2000 i don't know squat about these electronic thing's and need some "Help"
Funny i can build a gas forge right now but the electric stuff scares the hell out of me :confused:
 
Pinoy, all of the big players in control make something that will work for you ~ Eurotherm, Watlow, Omron, you name it. Rashid nailed it with what he recommended ~ just look for one that is set up to use standard 120 vac and you are good to go. As Rashid stated, they can all drive a SSR (solid state relay) that in turn will turn off and on the heating element, and they all use K type TCs as one of their options. The controller will not directly switch the power, so rating of the contacts in it are not important. Make sure that the TC is rated for the temp and atmosphere that you want to achieve. As far as your question about accuracy, any of the quality ones are more than accurate enough. Also, most of the newer units are set up to "auto tune". This allows the controller to teach itself how to best reach the set point temperature without overshooting, and also allows it to stay at steady state temperature without fluctuating much. Sometimes it still won't be perfect, and you will need to manually alter the PID settings some to get it just right. Our equipment that we build to use in our factory uses something called a phase angle firing current controller(which is just a fancy adjustable thyristor) instead of the SSR. It gives us even better control of the heat and the elements last longer.

Best wishes with your project,
Steve
 
Go & buy this:

- http://cgi.ebay.com/UNIVERSAL-PID-T...ryZ50926QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

That is the PID controller - I little gizmo, that reads output from TC, and if the temp is low, it will tell the relay to let current flow through spiral to bring the temp to where you want it. When it reaches that temp, the controller will cycle the relay on/off to maintain that temp

they are nice nuff to include a K-type TC in the package

About relay: you want not a "mechanical" but "solid state", aka "semiconductor" relay.

So buy this: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-40A-SSR-Sol...ryZ78207QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

You can probably get SSR for less money, if you watch Ebay for a while. At the moment it appears to be dry :(

The SSR will need to be mounted on a heatsink - a piece of an alluminum plate should do .
 
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