Heat treat parrots

[Ankerson]

I've had people try telling me about who has the best heat treat, the second best, 3rd., etc. I asked how they knew . What is considered the best, and why. How do they find out proprietary information, what the testing protocol is and various other questions. The best, and most common answer is that it's "commonly accepted" that XXYYRR is the best. That is about the best I can get.

It's a pretty similar story for what the best brand is, the best steel,the toughest,etc.

I have found out that people have difficulty admitting they are wrong even when caught in the act.

I think that pretty much sums it all up right there.

 

[hardheart]

I know nothing about steel, but if both Becker and ESEE use 1095 ...why do you hear more stories about Beckers chipping and breakig than you hear about with ESEEs?

could be a lot of things - like Becker being around longer as a brand, and the larger blades being cheaper so more people own them, or maybe they are ground thinner, or maybe there aren't a lot of stories, but people think there are.

There is probably a difference in heat treat, they don't use the same composition steel. Kabar/Becker uses 1095CV.

 

[Ankerson]

could be a lot of things - like Becker being around longer as a brand, and the larger blades being cheaper so more people own them, or maybe they are ground thinner, or maybe there aren't a lot of stories, but people think there are.

That could be most of it as we know the same knife stories seem to get passed around quite a bit as different stories and a lot of people think they are different knives, but they are the same one, just told differently.....

 

[HardTripper]

Yeah lets hear these "stories", I bet they're just that. You want to see broken ESEE's, I remember Jeff posting a photo thread of all the returns, lot's of chips, broken tips, and snapped blades; seen em with my own eyes.

 

[The Mastiff]

Yeah lets hear these "stories", I bet they're just that. You want to see broken ESEE's, I remember Jeff posting a photo thread of all the returns, lot's of chips, broken tips, and snapped blades; seen em with my own eyes.

Even if X brand had 20 more than Y brand it still doesn't prove anything about "quality" of heat treat. Still, any time somebody does have a complaint about a chip or an inability to sharpen a knife there will automatically be diagnosis of bad heat treats by people who have never been in the same room with the knife, or anybody who has actual facts about the companies proprietary heat treat. The "fact" is often something as simple as that person recalls another thread about the same type knife that chipped out too doing something a knife of that steel and price should have been able to handle without chipping. They have the whole thing figured out.