Heat treating and temering 1084

[Skyfntm]

Cool... have fun.

My only fear is that some new makers hear about crazy mystical heat treat rituals, make a knife, test it a bit, think they've found the secret formula and spread the word like wildfire. It could be just dumb luck or improper testing but "Doing the holky-polky while quenching in rendered bear fat with the tip pointing to magnetic North makes for great knives!"

I would much rather have someone post a knife and say... "I simply heated it to non-magnetic, gave it an addotional 7-count and plunged it into canola. It worked out well and I'm happy with the performance." THAT is honesty, without hype.

Well Rick that is what you can expect from me. I have gotten the do's and dont's from the people that have been doing this ALOT longer than I have. Now it is time for me to take what I have learned and test things out for myself. I have gotten a general idea of how I'm going to take a stab at it.

Thanks agian Stacy, Rick, AVigil, SBranson, and Brian for all the helpful information. As soon as i get my metal in I'm going to put everything to use that I have been told. I will take pics of the process that way I can show you guys what I have gotten from what you have told me.

Of course I expect hard criticism.

Thanks again
Skyler

 

[Hesparus]

Hesparus...

I ran into the same problems. My solution was to eliminate direct contact with the piece and not have to rely on an adhesive to hold the magnet in place. I hammered out the end of a length of 1/4" mild roundstock and stuck one of those strong button magnets on it. The end is turned up and I use the backside of the flattened rod to touch the hot steel.

That's a great solution. Thanks for sharing.

- Chris

 

[AVigil]

Be sure to check out Anderson forge video series on youtube. It is well worth the time. He demonstrates using the IR thermometer and gives some great info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ0Qpac8WJM

You can check out Tai Goo's garden torch forge

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...n-weed-burner-rig?highlight=weed+burner+forge

 

[Zuluninja]

so...rendered bear fat is NOT a good quenchant? bummer :grumpy:

I have a broken stump of 1/8 1084 that obviously wasn't ht'ed right. If I follow that normalizing sequence posted earlier, will it be good to recycle? I think I can squeeze 3 minis out of the stump.

 

[SteelSlaver]

If you follow Stacy's normalization formula the steel will be back to where it needs to be to be hardened.

 

[Zuluninja]

thanks