heat treating stainless

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I am looking for a good recipe to treat 440C and Ats34. Will someone help me with this. Optimum hardness can be the opinion of my mentor. I have been treating A2 with success. I have a furnace with programmable control. Virtually all that I do is of thickness less than 1/4 inch. My stainless now is 5/32 inch.

I hope I've nailed down the variables.

Thanks,
Jerry Marcacci
 
Michael,
Thanks for the reply. Regarding the tempering, can you help me with those temps and times as well. It looks like the locals are a little reckless with advice (they say treat all stainless alike).
I am really appreciating this website as I learn.

Thanks again,

Jerry Marcacci
 
Well, in the first place, 440-C isn't really stainless steel. Stainless steel is what we make pots and pans, flat wear from.

440-C is a stain resisting Hi-Carbon steel. They are probably somewhat correct. It is that we just aren't using what they are talking about. Average machine shops have no experience with what we are using, Much less for our intender purpose.

The books say 1 hr at temp for ever inch of thickness. None of us are making 1" thick knives! Aha!

Wrap in a good stainless foil. (available from just about any Knife Supply House.

There are many methods. But 15 minutes is just about max at temp for a typical hunting blade in 440-C. There is no reason to hold it longer and loose much of the carbon you bought it for in the first place.

After a strong air quench, (4 bar, or min of 56 lbs,) of moving air, or plate quench, place in over (while still warm, to the tempering temp you select for the desired results) Hold for 1 hrs. Most stop there. I go for two hours there times.

If you don't have shop air, quench in a very strong air current of fan air. The colder the better. Placing between two plates of thick alu. also works well. I use a combination of plates and forced air.

Mike
 
440C

Foil wrap the blades, soak at 1900F for 30 minutes, quench in oil for 5/32 or thicker, if thinner air quench works. Temper at 375 F for 1.5 hrs, cool again, then temper 1.5 hrs at 350F.
 
Do NOT use forced air to quench. Use 2 aluminum plates.
Forced air quenching can give rise to a whole host of problems.
If your going to air quench let sit in still air.
Wrap in s.s. foil, double or triple fold the ends, place a small piece of paper inside to burn up oxygen in the envelope, place in oven blade up.
Equalize at 1450 soak 10-15 min ramp up to 1850 then soak for 20-25 min., depending on your stock thickness. Quench. Temper as soon as the knife is at approximately 150. Temper 2-3 times 2 hrs each time. 550 temper will yield approx. 59-60hrc under ideal circumstances.

This is what I have used for 440 c.

The plates I use are 1/2" thick by 10" by 6" plus 2 spring clamps to hold them together
 
Awesome. I just noticed this stupid thread is like 3 years old.

Uhh Ohh...you know what's coming don't ya? ;)

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