heaviest thickest non nepalese kukri

I'm not going to delve too deeply into religious connotation as that's a no-go here. However, I think it is important to at least put the markings on many khukuris into context. I think some folks that may take issue with the markings on a tradional blade are at least owed some background so that they can make an informed decision as to if they even want a traditional khukuri in their mitts.

Many of the markings and attributes are there for traditional reasons. As the kami black smiths are of the untouchable caste, many of them are illiterate. Much of what they know is handed down from master to apprentice over generations. Why is a Cho there? Sharpening stop? Blood drip? Represents the trident of a god? Represents the hoof of the sacred cow? All good guesses that no one knows the answer to.

Even the marks the kamis use have individual meanings beyond what we think they mean. One of the HI kamis at one point used what many of us would see as a swastika as his mark. The fylflot and variations have been used by countless cultures that didn't even overlap for thousands of years meaning many different things. Why? Well, it's easy to draw.

My personal favorite kami is named Kumar. He marks his blades with a six pointed star. I can assure you, his last name is not Goldblatt.

I would not get hung up on the markings if you like a blade.

What I can tell you is that pretty much every shipment of knives coming out of a country like Nepal is going to have had a blessing done on them, so take that as you will. It's a real nefarious one too. Something along the lines of "May this knife serve its owner faithfully. May it never be used in anger." Spooky stuff 😉

Also, the shop will be blessed 2 or more times a year during religious celebrations. Everything will be sprinkled, smoked, or prayed over in order to ensure that business continues to run smoothly. So keep that in mind if it's an issue.

The beat bet to avoid a lot of this would to just get one manufactured in China. Sweatshops are agnostic at best 😉
 
Bare Knuckle Honky said:
you will own nothing and eat meal worm burgers/ drink your recycled urine and like it
says klaus, bill and mark
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I don't know who you mean by klaus, bill and mark, but all water in the world is recycled urine, if you think about it.
 
Bare Knuckle Honky said:
to explain myself: I dont wsnt any religious symbols that are not Christian on anything I own weapons included, i
ts not prideful its called not wanting to participate in idolitry in my view.
I also would not own a gun with a cross engraved on it as I veiw it as disrespectful,
call me old fashioned. I realize that these weapons come from cultures that are not Christian and while I have respect for their cultures I dont want to be a part of their belief system any more than they want to participate in mine.
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Sure thing, my man. I respect ya. I'm mainly interested in the knives, and I'm mainly suggesting that you consider adding BudK-level Chinese goods to your list of "banned items", for reasons of safety and not principal, though. They are in all honestly probably okay for light use, but alarm bells start to ring for me if I imagine someone using anything from United Cutlery in a chopping way, or how you might want to swing a Khukuri 😂
 
If you REALLY like their knife: just polish the "cho" out of it
Problem solved!
 
Steely_Gunz said:
I'm not going to delve too deeply into religious connotation as that's a no-go here. However, I think it is important to at least put the markings on many khukuris into context. I think some folks that may take issue with the markings on a tradional blade are at least owed some background so that they can make an informed decision as to if they even want a traditional khukuri in their mitts.

Many of the markings and attributes are there for traditional reasons. As the kami black smiths are of the untouchable caste, many of them are illiterate. Much of what they know is handed down from master to apprentice over generations. Why is a Cho there? Sharpening stop? Blood drip? Represents the trident of a god? Represents the hoof of the sacred cow? All good guesses that no one knows the answer to.

Even the marks the kamis use have individual meanings beyond what we think they mean. One of the HI kamis at one point used what many of us would see as a swastika as his mark. The fylflot and variations have been used by countless cultures that didn't even overlap for thousands of years meaning many different things. Why? Well, it's easy to draw.

My personal favorite kami is named Kumar. He marks his blades with a six pointed star. I can assure you, his last name is not Goldblatt.

I would not get hung up on the markings if you like a blade.

What I can tell you is that pretty much every shipment of knives coming out of a country like Nepal is going to have had a blessing done on them, so take that as you will. It's a real nefarious one too. Something along the lines of "May this knife serve its owner faithfully. May it never be used in anger." Spooky stuff 😉

Also, the shop will be blessed 2 or more times a year during religious celebrations. Everything will be sprinkled, smoked, or prayed over in order to ensure that business continues to run smoothly. So keep that in mind if it's an issue.

The beat bet to avoid a lot of this would to just get one manufactured in China. Sweatshops are agnostic at best 😉
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thanks for info the chinese and usa kukri are too light, its ok though
I'll make my own blade like sgt. John J Rambo did 😁 I'll call it the 1776 melon choper
 
I have a lot of Kukuris and have trained a bunch with edges weapons.

I will not mention any religious or symbolic connotations on these blades because I do not care

I will say that if you think during the crusades a Muslim or Christian would hesitate in battle from picking up any weapon and using it your wrong but I respect your choices on not wanting a Cho for your reasons

i understand you want heavy but may I ask why ?

an average size Khuk is a tool that has substantial weight already and if your goal is to utilize it as a weapon you don‘t want to go excessive on weight.

a Khukuri has devastating power …… I call it the lead pipe effect because it has enough weight to give it one shot stopping power like the tomahawk though it suffers the same malodes of any weapon of weight and that makes momentum which leads to over strikes …….meaning its hard to change direction with and recover and in a combat blade that can be an issue

look at what a Ghurka is issued and I would stick to something in that size and weight. large Khukuris are ceremonial for a reason not combat tools.

the finest Khukuris I’ve handled are these done by MS Jason Knight





the best of the three as a weapon is the top one that exhibits the most radical distal taper that imparts that magical feeling of balance,,,speed and power that makes blades come alive in hand. The other 2 exhibit it as well but not to the same extreme




this piece also exhibits the dreaded Cho :)



I’m not suggesting you spring for MS blades these when available were around 3k a piece

For a fighting Khukuri that is traditional and relatively inexpensive I like the DUI CHIRRA from HI




the best feeling antique I found was this Ivory handled example that is actually an integral it exhibits good distal taper and is a very well made tempered piece of steel. The only downfall is like all traditional pieces the handle is a bit short




So again IMHO leave the over sized boat anchors for ceremonial duties and get something that moves well

I have an M43 as a dedicated truck blade but its big and heavy and does great for processing wood but that’s about it and if I had to defend myself with a Khukuri it would be one of the blades above and probable the Knight piece with the Cho

one last point what all great Khukuris have in common is some type of fullers and the distal taper

good luck
 
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shane45-1911 said:
In this day and age, I just find it awfully narrow-minded that there is still intolerance of other religions and cultures.

By very nature, the khukuri IS from another country, culture and religion and has deep-rooted associations with all of them - which is why I suggested that maybe he shouldn't be looking for a khukuri at all if he is bothered by the religious aspect of that knife.
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Could be a false idols thing.

I would compare it more like kosher or halal. Where you can eat foreign things but they have to be specific.

Here we go. Because I worked in a bottle shop once and had people ask this.

Kosher wine made in Australia.

Kosher Wine Australia - Kosher Wine Five Stones Margaret River WA

www.kosherwine.com.au www.kosherwine.com.au

So a basically non Jewish country. But there is some process there that makes it ok to drink.
 
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I just consider that "personal preference " is just that and none of my business, unless I'm buying . :cool:

After all , I have my own peculiar tastes , which not everyone appreciates : :oops:
 
If you just need a big, heavy knife: David Mary has couple of real beaties...IMG_6041.JPGIMG_12122021_211932.jpg
 
Bare Knuckle Honky said:
I would be defending others and their store with such a weapon
if I don't 5 people become unemployed should their store get attacked and looted AGAIN
the manager got beat by 4 gang members in the store before and the security guard had to run away in a zig zag pattern to avoid bullets before
btw my place was burned out by homeless drug addicts the fire left 22 people
including cripples and elderly without a place to live
EVERYTHING i owned is gone and this is the second fire I have experienced in two years
the city/police will not stop them from setting subsaquent fires on the same block they have set two more
I called the police nothing was done.
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Sounds like it's time to move
 
good point above ^... but outside of moving... perhaps bringing a kuk to a gunfight isn't the best plan?

be safe, work in teams & plan with others how to respond to different situations
 
shane45-1911 said:
Not "this".

Look at it this way - in another (far-reaching) analogy, let's say the OP wanted a Nazi Swastika or SS badge, but he wanted it "made in USA" because he doesn't like what the symbols stand for. Does that change the meaning of the symbol? No, the symbols still represent what they are.

A khukuri is associated with the Nepalese Ghurkas, and their culture and religion. Where the blade is made or what symbols are or aren't on it, does not change that. The khukuri still honors who and what it was created for - another culture, another religion.

Which is why I suggested he not own a khukuri at all if he is bothered by some aspect of that knife, and what and who it represents. The knife IS the symbol.
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The OP sees the cho as a Hindu symbol and he doesn't want it. He obviously doesn't see the khukri as a Hindu symbol. I'm not saying he's even right one way or the other, it doesn't matter what I think, I'm not the arbiter of what he believes. I'm also not going to rail about how intolerant he is because he's not interested in what he perceives as a Hindu symbol.
 
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