Hello to the group and I could use some help

I am going to reach out to them tomorrow...i forget time zones some times. I think I have determined that the bottom must have broken first...without me knowing I hit it again causing the top to snap like it did. I could be 100% wrong but it makes the most sense to me.

Thanks again for the suggestions and for not being too hard on the new guy. I will be getting out tomorrow to use my new bk7 . Thinking the 9 might be next.
 
Wait. Is the question: 1) will Kabar cover the knife under warranty, or 2) should you rightly/ethically make a warranty claim (since you admittedly abused the knife).

I would guess that Kabar would honor the warranty because try are a great company.

To the second ethical question, that one is more interesting...
 
calvinw said:
Wait. Is the question: 1) will Kabar cover the knife under warranty, or 2) should you rightly/ethically make a warranty claim (since you admittedly abused the knife).

I would guess that Kabar would honor the warranty because try are a great company.

To the second ethical question, that one is more interesting...
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Im not sure he used the best technique but Ethan has said many times battoning his knives with wood is not considered abuse.
 
I'm with Psyop. It's a BK2. That's a 1/4" thick piece of carbon steel. Batoning with it is not abuse. Even if he didn't make the wisest choices, it still shouldn't have broken.
 
There's batonning, and then there's "batonning". Batonning does not mean "beating the living snot out of a knife for no good reason". Grown-ups ought to use tools in a reasonable manner, and show a little respect and restraint.

Just my opinion, of course.
 
caleath said:
I am going to reach out to them tomorrow...i forget time zones some times. I think I have determined that the bottom must have broken first...without me knowing I hit it again causing the top to snap like it did. I could be 100% wrong but it makes the most sense to me.

Thanks again for the suggestions and for not being too hard on the new guy. I will be getting out tomorrow to use my new bk7 . Thinking the 9 might be next.
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That must have been an oversight... We'll try to do better next time...

Of course I'm still kinda new myself.
 
Wow! I've only seen one other BK2 broken before, but that was an older stamped model. This being a new laser engraved model just makes the damage all the more amazing.
 
link2derek said:
When it's steel vs. wood, steel should always win that's what Nutn says - LOL!)... And I know Ka-Bar/Becker has great customer service and warranty, and I wouldn't be surprised if they simply replaced it for you. Please let us know how it turns out.

Btw, it probably wouldn't hurt if you mentioned that "the guys on BladeForums" recommended that I call - that way they know you'll likely be posting your CS experience....
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my personal opinion is that : you should never have to baton, if you plan ahead, or think about it.

Sir Nessmuk never batoned. he was lazy. he used other techniques.

in the wild, one SHOULD be able to find materials. it requires little extra work.

that said, Becker and KaBar sustain that batoning is warranteed.

there are cases where wood is stronger than metal. there are cases where wood will break metal. various kinds of trees can even be harder than steel due to various compositions.

and again, all that said.. the way this knife broke suggests 'bad steel'... or unbelievably severe abuse.

osage orange is "like metal". batoning that through cold, knot prone wood? i'd expect breakage in the blade edge, esp chips.

the HANDLE broke? wow. bad steel, or VERY VERY VERY bad technique. one says "warranty replacement". the other says "don't do that. ever."

KaBar will want to see this.

send them the shards of narsil :>
 
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All this talk of BAD batonning technique lol could some one explain exactly what bad technique while batonning is? Seems like to baton a log you would put the blade of the knife on the log and beat it through until the log splits lol ORGINAL POSTER does the the spine or anywhere for that matter show signs of steel on steel contact? Like say from the poll of a hammer or a sledge? One other possibility is the previous owner used the bk2 as a throwing knife which created micro fractures which caused the failure while you were batoning. Anyway I've beat my bk2 into ironwood gotten it stuck and wailed on the handle to free the knife and it never crossed my mind my knife could break, guess I jus have a lot of trust in my bk2.
 
There is no doubt that using a knife to baton is hard on a blade but we all do it and for the most part there are few issues and generally those issues are small chips or rolled edges which can be fixed easily. While I always carry and axe with me there are times when I baton wood to help with building a fire while bumming around the woods. I do however baton a lot in the basement while building fires in the wood stove. The log splitter is by no means a tool for fine detailed work and a splitting axe is a bit much to swing and try and hit a specific point on a wood junk. I baton to get the right size piece of wood I need for the job. By choosing to baton with my knife I accept a few truths:
1) If not careful in selecting a piece of wood to baton or the correct blade then I will have to work harder then necessary to complete the batonning
2) At some point my knife with suffer as a result of my actions (chips, dents, rolled edges, broken or bent blade)
3) It is my money and time that will be wasted when (not if) the knife becomes damaged because at some point there will be damage

Once I have accepted these points then I'm good to go. I do baton with my blades and have suffered some issues, most recently being my Tops Anaconda suffered a bend that wouldn't come out very easily after batonning through some black spruce.

To the OP, I do hope you get resolution from the customer service department however if you don't I hope you continue to buy and use beckers because they are just plain awesome
 
The very first chance I had after getting my BK2, I used it to split a whole bunch of firewood. I cut down a standing dead oak, cut 'logs' from it that were 1-2 ft long, and since I only had a saw and my BK2, I used my BK2 with a baton to split all those logs into usable pieces. Honestly, it hardly scratched the coating on the blade but I went through 3 different batons. I can't imagine what was going on when that one broke.

In the same position, even if it didn't get replaced because it was determined there was abuse involved, I'd just get another one and keep doing what I do.
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