HELP! knife stolen from checked baggage

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Well, it happened to me. As the title says, a knife was stolen from my checked baggage flying from Dayton to StL. I was just coming home for the weekend and checked a carry on type bag full of underwear and the knife. Get to StL and rummage through the bag at the baggage claim to find no knife. I went through it several more times with no joy. So now it looks like I am going to have to try to make a claim.

My question here is if anyone has any experience with this type of situation and if so, how best to resolve it. Neither AA or the TSA has been very helpful besides being able to get claim forms from the TSA website.

What really makes me mad is that I was bringing this knife home to send to a fellow forumite in trade. Now I have to call him and explain the situation and see where we go from here. I know it isn't my fault but I still feel badly about the whole thing.

Any help or advice would be most greatly appreciated.
 
I had the same thing happen this winter. I lost my beloved BM AFCK that I had for over 7 years.It happend when I was flying from Kotezbue to Nome at the end of the Iditirod. When flying now I just carry cheap knives. If There are TSA agents that woud do you think we are safe?
 
Sorry to hear -- I'm sure a good many of us have "been there." On a return trip from Hartford, CT last year I had a Leatherman PST II, a pair of Thorlo wool socks (?!), and two condoms (!?!!) lifted from my stowaway luggage. Interestingly, my Fieldmaster SAK was still in the bag.

As noted by others on these forums, anything I'm not willing to lose comes on-board with me if possible, or is mailed to/from my destination. For longer trips/ vacations, I've mailed a good EDC folder and Leatherman Wave (and once, for camping, a small fixed) ahead to my hotel or friend's home, and packed a small, collapsed Priority box with postage for return shipping. No problems so far, and under $8 total postage per trip.


If you try to recover the knife, best of luck and keep us posted.

Glen
 
This really irritates me. I haven't gone anywhere since prior to 9/11 so I have yet to experience the new "security measures" that goes on in the airports these days, but I do plan on traveling again sometime and since I can't drive anywhere (see location), I will eventually end up having to deal with this situation.

Maybe we should start up some kind of running list of these theft occurrences that document specific airports, airlines, etc. where items turn up missing (doesn't even have to be just knives since any thievery should be noted). Also with updates to the situation (whether it was resolved, what procedures each victim is going through and the response to their actions). Maybe some patterns might emerge (though doubtful) and it may help future victims with proper procedures for this situation. Although I can only remember 4 or 5 specific mentions of knife theft on the forums, so it may not be that useful. Just a suggestion.
 
This is precisely why I now own a $20.00 Kershaw Vapor. That and a small pair of Gatco pocket crock stix go in my shaving kit and are what I carry when I get to the other end of the plane ride. I'd hate to lose a Microtech or one of my better Benchmades that way. Sorry for your loss.

John
 
ZENGHOST said:
This really irritates me. I haven't gone anywhere since prior to 9/11 so I have yet to experience the new "security measures" that goes on in the airports these days, but I do plan on traveling again sometime and since I can't drive anywhere (see location), I will eventually end up having to deal with this situation.

Maybe we should start up some kind of running list of these theft occurrences that document specific airports, airlines, etc. where items turn up missing (doesn't even have to be just knives since any thievery should be noted). Also with updates to the situation (whether it was resolved, what procedures each victim is going through and the response to their actions). Maybe some patterns might emerge (though doubtful) and it may help future victims with proper procedures for this situation. Although I can only remember 4 or 5 specific mentions of knife theft on the forums, so it may not be that useful. Just a suggestion.

EXTREMELY good idea zenghost. maybe we should have a forum just for this purpose, for people to post airport problems. that would be the most organized way of doing it i think. then maybe have a constantly updated sticky-thread for the problem places.
 
In the May issue of Knife World there is a letter to the editor from Bob Cumming on how he gets thru airport security. Short version is that he tells them he has weapons in his checked baggage and requests a private search.He states full cooperation and no knife has been lost.
 
I did tell the folks that I had a knife in my bag and they acknowledged it. Don't know if that helped or hindered in this situation.
 
I only travel with Spydercos now, and I put a padlock through the Spyderhole, and through a short Kryptonite cable (typically used to lock bicycle seats to the bike frame so they don't get swiped) which is looped around a brace inside the bag - basically the knife is locked to the inside of the luggage, but visible for inspection. I also put a loop of paracord around the knife body to keep it from opening in transit.
 
Julian Elliot said:
I only travel with Spydercos now, and I put a padlock through the Spyderhole, and through a short Kryptonite cable (typically used to lock bicycle seats to the bike frame so they don't get swiped) which is looped around a brace inside the bag - basically the knife is locked to the inside of the luggage, but visible for inspection. I also put a loop of paracord around the knife body to keep it from opening in transit.


Julian, that is a great idea. Doesn't help right now, but something to keep in mind for the future. If I would have done that I would probably still have the Chinook. Thanks for the heads up.
 
That sucks!

I am going on a trip the end of August & I really want to take a knife with me. But after hearing & reading threads on how things get "mysteriously" taken by the thieves at the airports (BASTARDS!) I can't bring myself to do it. The cable through the Spyderhole sounds like a great idea!
But then again, I am going on a Disney cruise & I haven't a clue as to there policy on knives.

Wonder if I should call the cruise line and ask or if that will only draw attention to me & give me grief?


What to do???????
 
sixfeetdeep said:
Wonder if I should call the cruise line and ask or if that will only draw attention to me & give me grief?


What to do???????

Do not bother to ask the cruise line: their answer will be no knives, no how. Pack a small lockback or slipjoint (e.g., SAK) in your luggage -- it's all the knife you're going to need on a cruise. Be discrete.
 
OK guys. Please do not kill me. I feel doubly bad now.

So I packed the knife in with underwear so there was something else in the bag rather than the knife just bouncing around. Anyhow, I get back to my hotel room tonight and notice a pair of underwear on the floor rolled up (like all the ones in my bag). Go over, unroll it and there is the knife. I feel like a real ass now. I am glad for all the support I was given, but bad about wrongfully accusing the airline/TSA (although I do believe things sometimes do "walk away" in "security", this time they did not and it was my fault).

Now I must again straighten things out with the person whom I was to trade with and who has been most gracious about the whole incident (see post in G,B,&U).

Thanks again for the support and very very very sorry about the screw up.

P.S. I think I will try the locked up spyderco trick from now on when I fly.
 
Personally I'm glad for you that the knife turned up. I usually just clip the knife to the pocket of a pair of pants in the bag and then pack the pants. The knife isn't going anywhere and is sorta padded. It's also easily found when I go to unpack. I too like the spyder-hole lock trick.
 
When I travel, I pack all my sharp point stuff, as well as assorted "survival" keychain items in my checked luggage. I then use a black nylon wire tie to seal the zippers, and cut it off close. Barely visible.

I tape a UtiliKey inside one of the zippered pockets for use (opening) after I get to my destination.

If the TSA asks if my luggage is locked, I politely and calmly say "Yes. We can stop the terrorists, but we can't seem to stop thieves". I then ask that if it need to be searched after it goes thru the screening device, may I reseal it as I have had items disappear in the past.

Every time, the TSA people have been cool as hell.

Nothin has disappeared.
 
I've had good luck travelling, knock on wood. I put my knives in cases in a pack in the center of my checked through luggage. I have not been ripped off. Several of my friends have lost knives, usually thier EDC when the forget about the knife until they get to the airport and zip the piece in an outer pocket of thier luggage. If the knife is not easily palmed you have a good chance of not losing it...Ed
 
one2gofst, it takes a real man to admit your mistake and stand up and say, "[I feel] bad about wrongfully accusing the airline/TSA."

It's the right thing to do, though, and to do it here on the forum publically.

I respect you for that.



I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but theft from checked luggage is way down post 9/11. The people handling the baggage are more carefully vetted themselves now. And the areas where checked baggage are handled are under a lot more surveilance now too.

Theft from checked luggage is the responsibility of the airlines. It is the airline's responsibility to persue the matter with TSA if they believe that TSA is at fault.

If you have valuables in your checked luggage, it's a good idea to snap a few digital pictures of them before you pack them. I like to use the morning newspaper from my departure city as a background. Then snap a picture of two of the items in your suitcase. If all goes well, you can just delete those pictures right off your camera. They cost you nothing. And most digital cameras have some way to display pictures right on 'em. So, if need be, you can show your pictures to the baggage agent at your destination airport immediately.

If you're traveling with valuables in your checked luggage, you can request a hand-inspection of your checked bag in your presence and then you can lock the bag before it's taken away to go to the plane. The practical procedures for this vary from airPORT to airPORT. Notice I said airPORT not airline. No major airport has been built post-9/11, so no major airport was designed to accomodate the post-9/11 security changes. As a result, each airport has had to figure out how to work the post-9/11 security changes including 100% screening of checked baggage using 3D x-rax machines that are the size of school buses. Where to practically put those giant machines and how to fit them into the flow differs from airport to airport.

The best thing to do is call your airline's ticket desk at the airport you'll be departing from and ask them what practical procedures to follow and how much extra time to allow. Notice that I said to call "your airline's ticket desk at the airport," not the airline's national 1-800 reservations number. The very best that the people on the national 800 line can do is read you a vague paragraph or two off of their computer screen. These new security measures are very dynamic. The information on the computer screen could very easily be out of date. You want to talk to someone on the ground in the airport you'll be going out of who deals with these issues day-to-day.

Several people have suggested (in this tread and others on the same topic in the past) somehow securing the knife to the luggage itself perhaps using a zip-tie, some paracord, or even a small paddlock inside the bag. These are great suggestions if the knife and your bag allow them.

Finally, when you arrive, check for your valuables immediately. Your claim will be much more credible if you file it at your arrival airport immediately after the baggage arrives. Just go to the baggage service desk for your airlines and explain the matter.
 
It's all right, one2gofst. I forgive you. :D

Now send me the knife as a form of penance! :D
 
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