Help me pick a bicycle for my wife

When I took my wife to three different road and mountain bike stores she found nothing better for her than the Trek Navigator.

Nice wide seat with lots of cushion, easy ride handle bars, nice color and size choice and the price was right. Thats what I got her. Been a good bike.

STR
 
While there are a lot of other inaccuracies in your post I want to address this one. If you can touch your toes to the ground while on the saddle then it's likely too low. You need to determine your pubic bone height first and then you can use one of a couple of different formulas to get close. You may need to tweak it from there but at least you'll have a good starting point. The best way is to get a proper fitting from a good cycling shop.

Hmm...sorry I'm so stupid, but wait, you don't know what you're talking about! :rolleyes:

Your leg is NOT supposed to be fully extended at the bottom stroke, which it will be if you can't even touch your feet to the ground when straddling your saddle! You are not supposed to be reaching for the peddles or having your feet lift off them at the bottom stroke, they are supposed to firmly rest on them at ALL POINTS and your knees should bend a little at the bottom stroke.

And applying formulas people with too much time on their hands dreamt up that don't even work in the real world because they all just play with numbers (make up numbers for unknown variables or worse don't even take into account unknown variables like shoe sole thickness, leg length, foot length, where the foot is positioned on the pedal, etc. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/saddles.html#adjustment) isn't going to help, and uh, the pelvis distance to ground has little to do with proper saddle height (what does that matter when you don't know the leg or foot length or shoe thickness or type of pedal?!). You're in for a world of pain if you rely on faulty formulas to tell you what height your saddle should be at and then ride when it is uncomfortable "because the math just has to be right!" Uh, yea, no professional cyclist relies on such vodoo math, they go for what feels good, mile after mile, first and last. :rolleyes:

And I have yet to find a cycling shop that isn't full of kids who don't know what they are talking about (but act like it) or unhelpful old men who just grumble and work on repairing bikes and won't even tell you how to properly lube a bike (they want you to bring it in for repairs).

Anyway, the "barely touch your toes to the ground while straddling" measurement (among a few other tests like hip rocking) works for me (and so does all the above I wrote, not sure what else could be wrong...you're probably the type that uses motor oil or wd-40 on their chain and cables and thinks he's smart for not falling for the expensive lube hype lol) and has for over 15 years. I've never had any cycling injury or strain due to improper seat or handle height adjustment, in fact I've never had any strain of any kind and only a few minor injuries when I was a kid. I'm no competitive cyclist (I don't compete in anything, I think it's rather childish to do so, I cycle for myself only), but I've logged thousands of miles on my old kid bikes ('91 Specialized Hard Rock and 10 speed Motobecane) and over 5,000 on my Trek (according to my Cateye) since getting it 3 years ago (I do about 5-10 miles 5 days a week on average). So if something was wrong with my cycling position I would have known it long ago. :rolleyes:

That said, the most important thing is getting a frame size that fits properly (again, don't look to inapplicable formulas or bike employees to help here; get on a size that looks too small and ride it to get the feel, then get on a size that looks too big and do the same, then try for the middle and you'll have it!) and if that was not done it is already too late.

Oh, and yes padded bike shorts can be a life saver; I wear mine under other shorts or sweat pants (I do a lot of winter cycling) so I don't look so stupid. You don't want an oversized or overpadded bike seat since that just gets in the way (and can cause chafing) unless you are going to just cruise around at low speeds, so you need some padding--more than that is on your small and lean saddle--for long rides at least. And of course always wear a helmet. Oh, and hydration packs are lifesavers as well as padded cycle gloves. And get some climbing bars. :thumbup:

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Don't want to get in the middle of the argument, but I'm not a fan of climbing bars. Have them on my Marin full suspension MTB but left them off my Fisher Superfly and am much happier. Like many things, a matter of personal preference.

Thanks to everyone for their input,

DancesWithKnives
 
Hmm...sorry I'm so stupid, but wait, you don't know what you're talking about! :rolleyes:

Ooooh Kaaay....

It's obvious you didn't actually read what I said but read into it what you wanted. "it's likely too low......You may need to tweak it from there but at least you'll have a good starting point" I am smart enough to know that I could never judge someone's position on the bike over the internet...but I also know that there's no way in the world my feet can touch the ground while I'm on the saddle. But....if it works for you that's fine and dandy.
 
Congrats on your wife's new bike! Fuji's are great bikes. They're definitely underappreciated. She should have tons of fun. As others have said, make sure to keep the drive train clean and use good lubes. I use White Lightning on the chain - it's great low maintenance wax/teflon based stuff, and I use Tri Flow on the jockey wheels of the rear derrailleur.

Once she really breaks that thing in and knows what she likes, expect her to want to change out tires, seat, and pedals.

Come back here when you start looking for your bike.
 
Bike fit standards are extremely contentious in the cycling community. There are the rough "standards" that everyone has used for many years for frame size, saddle height, saddle fore-and-aft adjustment (many folks don't even seem to know you can move 'em...), reach, bar height, etc.
However, there are many dissenting voices.

In being the "bike guy" for our department, I adjust each bike for the individual rider (about 25 at present) and try to get things as comfortable as I can for them. If I've learned anything at all in many years, it's that you have to deal with the individual, and you have to tailor the position for what the individual will actually be doing.

A lot of the "standards" are actually designed for competitive racing cyclists. Lean, mean, strong lads who will spend 8-9 hours on the bike at a stretch, riding at speeds most of us can only envy.
Most cyclists do not fall into that category, and the ones that do will rapidly learn from a coach or from other riders how to attain the most-efficient position on the bike.
Most normal folks will spend only an hour or two at a time on the bike and ride at rather leisurely paces. They will be more comfortable with an upright position, and thus need a more-padded saddle. Bars should reflect that upright position.
Saddle height and saddle fore-and-aft remain the same, however.

The bikes they are marketing nowadays as "comfort" or "fitness" bikes are just great for a very large percentage of causal riders. They are comfortable, easy to operate, and reliable.
Many who buy these bikes will eventually graduate to more roadworthy bikes, and take the trouble to achieve a good fit and position on the bike.
 
As far as the fit debate, all I'll say is that the bike was fitted for my wife in the shop by the salesman, who seemed highly competent. She does need some decent shorts though.

She wants the bike for pavement riding and sprint triathlon use, and eventually for a full triathlon. A road bike seemed the best choice for her intended use. I tried it a bit the other day, and it seems so fast! Of course, I have not been on a bicycle in 20 years . . .

I myself would prefer a hybrid when I pick a bike. I think the position would be more comfortable for me, and I'd like the option of riding dirt roads, although I'd be riding a lot of pavement too.
 
I myself would prefer a hybrid when I pick a bike. I think the position would be more comfortable for me, and I'd like the option of riding dirt roads, although I'd be riding a lot of pavement too.

Another option I would recommend for you would be a cyclocross or light touring bike. These will likely cost you more than a hybrid (although there are deals out there) but you generally get more performance (and less weight) out of these than a hybrid. Ones to check out, although there are alot more models popping out now, include the Bianchi Volpe (I own and love one), Redline Conquest, Lemond Poprad, and Kona Jake. I would again recommend alot of the old 10-12 speed 1980's road bikes out there, since these accept wider tires too and can be made into sweet cyclocross rides.

Don't sweat it about everyone saying which way is the right way to fit a bike. Any competent bike mechanic using any type of fitting system, including the old school way of stradling the bike (only to be used with horizontal top tubes), will get you close. Over time, through personal experience on the bike, you'll likely fine tune it here and there.
 
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