Help me pick a Hinderer

Which Hinderer

  • Gen 4 Spearpoint WF

    Votes: 4 15.4%
  • Gen 5 Spearpoint WF

    Votes: 3 11.5%
  • Gen 5 Spanto WF w/ gear clip

    Votes: 4 15.4%
  • XM-24 Skinny SW or WF

    Votes: 3 11.5%
  • Wait and see what releases

    Votes: 11 42.3%
  • Gen 4 Spanto wf and sw combo

    Votes: 1 3.8%

  • Total voters
    26
I wish I could help. I am late to the Hinderer party. There are so many options. You need to decide what's best for you. But I will say go for M390 when possible.

I am thankful he makes non flippers.

BTW the gear clip is sooo hideous. It's almost embarrassing.

I love this picture so I don't mind sharing it again.


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Any of them will be great knives. I voted for the XM-24 Skinny. This knife got overlooked and has been my favorite big folder.
Maybe the best thing is to call a dealer and tell them which Hinderer you don't want like this movie clip.:) Decisions can be exhausting.
 
Awesome clip. Great movie. And not a bad idea. Decide what you want the least and work your way backwards. Me, I would get a non flipper in stone wash in some variant, but I am one of them that just doesn’t ‘get’ their flipper design.
 
I wish I could help. I am late to the Hinderer party. There are so many options. You need to decide what's best for you. But I will say go for M390 when possible.

I am thankful he makes non flippers.

BTW the gear clip is sooo hideous. It's almost embarrassing.

I love this picture so I don't mind sharing it again.


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If only M390 flippers were available for a spear slicer or Spanto with a choil sigh. The gear clip is so awful and adding to the cost $85 sheesh.
 
Any of them will be great knives. I voted for the XM-24 Skinny. This knife got overlooked and has been my favorite big folder.
Did get overlooked i think only YT video I could find was yours. Have a 3” and 3.5” so it’s only natural to complete the collection and get a 24. Being the thickness of a XM-18 with a 4” blade is sweet but the extra $100 is ehhhh
 
I voted #5, wait and see too. Of the Hinderer blades I have, the Spanto is my least favorite. I also had one WF blade and really didn't care for it--I love Hinderer SW, though! My 3.5 XM18 is Spanto, but I've re-profiled it to make it a better cutter and it has nice touches--bronze hardware and a very sweet dragon etching--so it's a keeper, even though I might rather it was a spearpoint.

I wanted an XM24 as I'm into bigger knives and got a Spanto with extra scales for a good price on the Exchange, sold the ME Frag scales, and sent the knife off to Josh at REK for a high hollow grind, changing it from sharpened prybar to light saber and losing what seemed like about a pound in the process. If you like big'uns I think the 24 Skinny might be a decent choice.

As to the lockbar insert, I have no preference either way. None of my RHKs or CRKs, of course, have them and they're all problem-free without. I've got lots of knives with 'em as well, and they're fine too. I think Rick nicely balances interesting designs of his own with putting out stuff to catch new market segments, so that's where I think the Gen 5 inserts come from.

I like that Gen 5 XM18 modified Sheepsfoot, but I've already got the MP1, which may be my favorite Hinderer. I got down to one HalfTrack, selling off a WF, and was originally surprised and still really do like that little guy.

That's the problem with Hinderers--there are so many really excellent choices that one could go broke and/or bonkers just trying them all out. :rolleyes:
 
I voted #5, wait and see too. Of the Hinderer blades I have, the Spanto is my least favorite. I also had one WF blade and really didn't care for it--I love Hinderer SW, though! My 3.5 XM18 is Spanto, but I've re-profiled it to make it a better cutter and it has nice touches--bronze hardware and a very sweet dragon etching--so it's a keeper, even though I might rather it was a spearpoint.

I wanted an XM24 as I'm into bigger knives and got a Spanto with extra scales for a good price on the Exchange, sold the ME Frag scales, and sent the knife off to Josh at REK for a high hollow grind, changing it from sharpened prybar to light saber and losing what seemed like about a pound in the process. If you like big'uns I think the 24 Skinny might be a decent choice.

As to the lockbar insert, I have no preference either way. None of my RHKs or CRKs, of course, have them and they're all problem-free without. I've got lots of knives with 'em as well, and they're fine too. I think Rick nicely balances interesting designs of his own with putting out stuff to catch new market segments, so that's where I think the Gen 5 inserts come from.

I like that Gen 5 XM18 modified Sheepsfoot, but I've already got the MP1, which may be my favorite Hinderer. I got down to one HalfTrack, selling off a WF, and was originally surprised and still really do like that little guy.

That's the problem with Hinderers--there are so many really excellent choices that one could go broke and/or bonkers just trying them all out. :rolleyes:
Very good post thank you. Don’t think the insert is necassary so I think I might just get a gen 4 bc I like the combo finish. The skinny XM-24 is very tempting. Do you have a pic of the 3.5 next to 4 ?
 
Think I may go for the gen 4 Spanto ano clip and tab with working finish lock side and stone washed blade. I love the working finish tho and kinda want a spear point sense I already have a Spanto 3”
 
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Very good post thank you. Don’t think the insert is necassary so I think I might just get a gen 4 bc I like the combo finish. The skinny XM-24 is very tempting. Do you have a pic of the 3.5 next to 4 ?
Here's the four I had at the time of the pic with the 24 up front next to the 18.

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I hadn't really thought of the combo of WF lockside slab with a stonewashed blade. The WF on the HalfTrack's blade is what I didn't really care for on that knife, though I did like the battle blue on the slabs. My newer HT is all SW with a textured lockside which I surprisingly like very much.

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Thanks brother it honestly doesn’t look much bigger than the 561
Think Military over ParaMilitary2 for size comparison, but remember how diesel XM Hinderers are compared to those two Spydies, so the difference is a bit more profound. The Skinny is very interesting, though.
 
Think Military over ParaMilitary2 for size comparison, but remember how diesel XM Hinderers are compared to those two Spydies, so the difference is a bit more profound. The Skinny is very interesting, though.
I like the 24 but dunno about $525 of like if it was $425 I’d probably pick it. Might get it for a Christmas gift this year but for now believe I’ll go another 3.5. Question is now spearpoint or Spanto. I like the looks of the Spanto more esp in Stonewash even tho I like the working finish more. Spearpoint may be a better overall shape and I’d get it in full working finish. The lockside working finish and stonewashed blade really has my attention and it would look sweet with the digi cam frag scale I have coming hmm
 
Personally, as an XM-only owner of all three sizes, I cannot see the point in buying the massively overbuilt knife and then installing a relatively fragile blade.

Neither do I see the point in the smallest 3", as too small for most rougher tasks, and only offers office workers a scale model facsimile.

The XM-24 is not much different than an XM-18 3.5" as for IWB carry, and one would be hard pressed to note the difference after a day of carry.

The Spearpoint the better cutter while still quite a stout blade compared to many, the Spanto thick edged and tipped for harshest use and only adequate for cutting.

I carry the XM-24 Spanto as I buy Hinderer for one of the toughest folders out there, able to take on what would give tough design 4" fixed blades pause.

And prefer no lockbar insert, as if kept clean and lubed, wear is highly overrated, and inserts move only impact to titanium from face of lockbar to behind the insert, anyhow. Otherwise only another complication to design. I carried an original AFCK from intro for over 10yrs as a work knife in hangars, and never noticed much deeper seating past what original break-in accomplished, as it was not left with grit grinding on the Ti liner face. The Hinderer magnitudes thicker and less percentage original engagement.

And hardly any above comment as to size will apply to those clipping in a pocket, as the larger likely a true ball and chain. Never could carry in such a way with advent of clips, whether due to going prone, or clip snagging and knife yanked from pocket in tight quarters, or pushed out when kneeling, bending, sitting, low crawling etc., and knives swiftly packed with grit.

With ANY frame lock, have tools and be prepared to adjust action to personal preference, as all are set for safety, not individual whim as for looseness of pivot or pressure of lockbar against side of blade and detent engagement. I find folk whining about such to grate on nerves, them simply refusing to see the world is not about their own personal feelings, and them apparently of the mechanical aptitude of a wallflower.

As for fatty 3.5" blades, just stay aware that the same thickness as an XM-24 in a shallower blade will mean more obtuse primary grind angle, and not as good a cutter as the larger version of same blade style. An example would be the adequate cutter 4" spanto becoming a marginal cutter in a 3.5" fatty.

Whatever you want is out there, current or not, I just received another never-used fatty spanto Mon. in the mail. My advice is 24 spearpoint for cutter, spanto abuser. If you look around, you surely can find a spearpoint 24 for sale, and also take-off scales for less than the $65 new if money is killing you. Of course, the longer you wait on out of print knives, the harder the search. There ARE dealers you have never heard of who carry Hinderer, and who have stuff not moving due to lack of exposure. I have found quite a few that way.
 
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Personally, as an XM-only owner of all three sizes, I cannot see the point in buying the massively overbuilt knife and then installing a relatively fragile blade.

Neither do I see the point in the smallest 3", as too small for most rougher tasks, and only offers office workers a scale model facsimile.

The XM-24 is not much different than an XM-18 3.5" as for IWB carry, and one would be hard pressed to note the difference after a day of carry.

The Spearpoint the better cutter while still quite a stout blade compared to many, the Spanto thick edged and tipped for harshest use and only adequate for cutting.

I carry the XM-24 Spanto as I buy Hinderer for one of the toughest folders out there, able to take on what would give tough design 4" fixed blades pause.

And prefer no lockbar insert, as if kept clean and lubed, wear is highly overrated, and inserts move only impact to titanium from face of lockbar to behind the insert, anyhow. Otherwise only another complication to design. I carried an original AFCK from intro for over 10yrs as a work knife in hangars, and never noticed much deeper seating past what original break-in accomplished, as it was not left with grit grinding on the Ti liner face. The Hinderer magnitudes thicker and less percentage original engagement.

And hardly any above comment as to size will apply to those clipping in a pocket, as the larger likely a true ball and chain. Never could carry in such a way with advent of clips, whether due to going prone, or clip snagging and knife yanked from pocket in tight quarters, or pushed out when kneeling, bending, sitting, low crawling etc., and knives swiftly packed with grit.

With ANY frame lock, have tools and be prepared to adjust action to personal preference, as all are set for safety, not individual whim as for looseness of pivot or pressure of lockbar against side of blade and detent engagement. I find folk whining about such to grate on nerves, them simply refusing to see the world is not about their own personal feelings, and them apparently of the mechanical aptitude of a wallflower.

As for fatty 3.5" blades, just stay aware that the same thickness as an XM-24 in a shallower blade will mean more obtuse primary grind angle, and not as good a cutter as the larger version of same blade style. An example would be the adequate cutter 4" spanto becoming a marginal cutter in a 3.5" fatty.

Whatever you want is out there, current or not, I just received another never-used fatty spanto Mon. in the mail. My advice is 24 spearpoint for cutter, spanto abuser. If you look around, you surely can find a spearpoint 24 for sale, and also take-off scales for less than the $65 new if money is killing you. Of course, the longer you wait on out of print knives, the harder the search. There ARE dealers you have never heard of who carry Hinderer, and who have stuff not moving due to lack of exposure. I have found quite a few that way.
Thank you this was helpful. A few of my options I found from less known dealers. I’m really feeling the Spanto I have a 3” one for cutting so Getting a 3.5” Spanto wouldn’t serve the same pou.
 
Just, again, keep in mind, the 4" wil be a better cutter than a 3.5" when both have same blade design, as the deeper 4" will allow a more gradual and acute primary grind than the shorter/shallower 3.5". The order of the below is 4" spanto, 3.5" fatty spanto, 3.5" normal spanto and then a 3.5" spearpoint done by Rick some time back. You will note the hand hollowground spearpoint the only one with close to the blade acute grind as the 4".
 
And the 4" compared to Pacific Salt/Endura, and a Sebenza and Inkosi...for reference, a 3.5" blade a little thicker, and also shorter, than the Inkosi...





As well as scaled against another known object not all that large..



 
Found a slicer 3.5” flipper (finally) stonewash blade and working lock side for a good price and bought it. Kinda hard to get a slicer flipper that’s Like new. Still want the Spanto might sell off a few things and buy it anyways
 
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