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There are some great Barkies out there at about 80 bucks.
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For 30 bucks you could get a mora 545/510 ($9) and a fiskars hatchet (20) with shipping thats about 37-40 dollars. This combo can handle anything a big knife can and is much more versatile.
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Given your requirements, the Spyderco Temperance can be found for around $50 (with sheath) on ebay or elsewhere and is a really fine knife for the money.
good luck
Dan
good luck
Dan
Local Wally Worlds have the regular phenolic handled 119 for $34 - you cannot go wrong with that one. The 'dress-up' wood/brass handle/fg-pommel version, 119BR, runs ~$50-$60 mail order - shares the same blade. The cheapie from W-W is scarey sharp - and made in USA.
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I have the Warthog,full tang version, and I think that the blade is too wide for such a short bladeok for skinning, but, not some other chores. Check out Muela of Spain, good knives at affordable prices. I believe that the steal is 440c . they come sharp, and hold an edge well. The two I have are both full tang, and they work very well.
The Ontario USN-2 might work. It doesn't have anything special on the pommel, but it can't be too hard to improvise something.
If you want something special a good idea might be to get a custom from Ranger knives.
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I have the larger warthog. Cut off those pesky guards and took off the coating. I beat it to hell and back. Used it to chop, baton, dig, etc. with no problems. It's not full tang, but it acts like one.
Do you want a "survival" knife or a knife for "survival".
1: You can get any black knife with serrations and a compass in the handle and matches and stuff for something like 10 bucks.
2: You can get a knife that is not too big and will be with/on you if the byproducts hit the air transportation thing. A Fallkniven F1 or S1 is more than 50 bucks, an F1 is about 70-90 depending on configuration. They are 4"-5" and dont have any of those combat attires people sometimes think is a must on a "survival knife". The F1 was designed for Swedish Airforce use and the S1 designed as a "forest knife".
As an anecdote the swedish airforce evaluated the SRK for a new survival knive back in 1990 something but eventually put the contract out to Fallkniven, the result being the F1. It is not a knife that will impress Indiana Jones or Crocodile Dundee but if you end up in the nowhere and the F1 helps you back to the populated areas you will be happy anyway. By the way, the Fallkniven knives are great to get sparks from a firesteel as well, the blade back is sharp like an iceskate.
Remember that a "survival knife" doesnt mean that it is the knife that helps you "survive". Your fancy 8" super-Rambo-CIA-SWAT-stealth-ninja 50 piece "survival system" is floating down river into the next time zone because it was strapped to your backpack and you have to make do with your 4" in your pocket. What did we learn from that? The 8" was too heavy to carry on your belt so it ended up on your pack, so why bring it at all. The 4" was the knife that "saved" you so better make it a good one.
Rumours say that the Fallkniven WM1 is popular with swedish special forces. They wear it in a neck sheath inside all their clothes with a fire steel. If everything else is lost they will at least get a fire running and get warm.
One other thing I read somewhere. When you find a knife you really like, get a second one. When out camping wear one in your belt and keep one in your pack. If for any reason loose one, you will have a spare so you dont end up using your multitool knife from day three on a two week trip
Pack that spare knife in a water tight container with fire making things and such. If everything else is wet it is important to get warm again.
1: You can get any black knife with serrations and a compass in the handle and matches and stuff for something like 10 bucks.
2: You can get a knife that is not too big and will be with/on you if the byproducts hit the air transportation thing. A Fallkniven F1 or S1 is more than 50 bucks, an F1 is about 70-90 depending on configuration. They are 4"-5" and dont have any of those combat attires people sometimes think is a must on a "survival knife". The F1 was designed for Swedish Airforce use and the S1 designed as a "forest knife".
As an anecdote the swedish airforce evaluated the SRK for a new survival knive back in 1990 something but eventually put the contract out to Fallkniven, the result being the F1. It is not a knife that will impress Indiana Jones or Crocodile Dundee but if you end up in the nowhere and the F1 helps you back to the populated areas you will be happy anyway. By the way, the Fallkniven knives are great to get sparks from a firesteel as well, the blade back is sharp like an iceskate.
Remember that a "survival knife" doesnt mean that it is the knife that helps you "survive". Your fancy 8" super-Rambo-CIA-SWAT-stealth-ninja 50 piece "survival system" is floating down river into the next time zone because it was strapped to your backpack and you have to make do with your 4" in your pocket. What did we learn from that? The 8" was too heavy to carry on your belt so it ended up on your pack, so why bring it at all. The 4" was the knife that "saved" you so better make it a good one.
Rumours say that the Fallkniven WM1 is popular with swedish special forces. They wear it in a neck sheath inside all their clothes with a fire steel. If everything else is lost they will at least get a fire running and get warm.
One other thing I read somewhere. When you find a knife you really like, get a second one. When out camping wear one in your belt and keep one in your pack. If for any reason loose one, you will have a spare so you dont end up using your multitool knife from day three on a two week trip
Pack that spare knife in a water tight container with fire making things and such. If everything else is wet it is important to get warm again.I too have the Mora 2000. It is a very popular hunting/outdoor knife in Sweden. I was issued one by the Army when sent on mission to Bosnia. It ended up back home and I brought my S1 instead.
Since it cost about 120-150 swedish kronor it is considered an expensive knife (compared to Moras for 15) in Sweden. The 2000 is really really sharp out of the most ugly sheath but O/ST has kydex ones
It needs some job done to it to work properly with a firestel. The blade back needs some "sharpening". Think ice skates and you understand what I mean.
The Mora 2000 is not a bad choice, endorsed by RM or not. It is not the ultimate "bushcraft" knife because of the somewhat blunt tip, that might be a because it is a hunting knife.
Two things (there are more) that the 2000 lacks compared to the F1 is the finger guard and the full tang (it comes out the back on the F1).
I will not crash down on the whol "survival" knife industry but I would rather have a Mora 2000 with that ugly sheath than a stealth tactical combat super rambo knife.
So get yourself a Mora 2000 and wish for that other fancy knife for christmas or the more politically correct "the day Donald Duck is on TV" (a tradition in Sweden since 1960). And get a swedish army firesteel while you are at it, and loose that puny scraper thing, it is crap.
Since it cost about 120-150 swedish kronor it is considered an expensive knife (compared to Moras for 15) in Sweden. The 2000 is really really sharp out of the most ugly sheath but O/ST has kydex ones
It needs some job done to it to work properly with a firestel. The blade back needs some "sharpening". Think ice skates and you understand what I mean.
The Mora 2000 is not a bad choice, endorsed by RM or not. It is not the ultimate "bushcraft" knife because of the somewhat blunt tip, that might be a because it is a hunting knife.
Two things (there are more) that the 2000 lacks compared to the F1 is the finger guard and the full tang (it comes out the back on the F1).
I will not crash down on the whol "survival" knife industry but I would rather have a Mora 2000 with that ugly sheath than a stealth tactical combat super rambo knife.
So get yourself a Mora 2000 and wish for that other fancy knife for christmas or the more politically correct "the day Donald Duck is on TV" (a tradition in Sweden since 1960). And get a swedish army firesteel while you are at it, and loose that puny scraper thing, it is crap.
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For a little more than $50 the Ontario RAT-3 is a fine knife. Small, but tough.
Personally, I think you gotta spend triple that to get something really good.
Personally, I think you gotta spend triple that to get something really good.
The RAT-3 and the F1 is about the same price range. The might do exactly the same thing hovever they are developed for different kind of environment.
The RAT-3 might be designed jungle, tropics, hot climate etc. while the F1 is made by a knife guru who lives above the arctic circle with cold, snow, ice and bad weather in general in mind.
Like Buffalohump said, 50 bucks is a bit low for something that you really want to rely on.
Put in another 50 and you will have something that really really works. Everything above that is extra. Both the RTA-3 and the F1 is a bit short for the original wish for 5" but enough anyway.
For chopping duties I would suggest a folding Bahco saw or Laplander saw or whatever they are called.
http://hem.passagen.se/nodh/trio.jpg
They are much safer than chopping and with a knife like the RAT or the F1 you can baton on it quite furiously so splitting wood will be easy.
The RAT-3 might be designed jungle, tropics, hot climate etc. while the F1 is made by a knife guru who lives above the arctic circle with cold, snow, ice and bad weather in general in mind.
Like Buffalohump said, 50 bucks is a bit low for something that you really want to rely on.
Put in another 50 and you will have something that really really works. Everything above that is extra. Both the RTA-3 and the F1 is a bit short for the original wish for 5" but enough anyway.
For chopping duties I would suggest a folding Bahco saw or Laplander saw or whatever they are called.
http://hem.passagen.se/nodh/trio.jpg
They are much safer than chopping and with a knife like the RAT or the F1 you can baton on it quite furiously so splitting wood will be easy.
Yeah, that's really annoying with moras in general.
Wish they came pre-squared. That's really annoying to do when you don't have any power tool at hand.