Help.....RC tester kicking my butt!

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Just received teh grizzly Rockwell tester and I can get it to work right. Tried from 6 to just now and I am scratching my head on this one.

Anyone have one or similar that I can talk to about how to operate it? MArk - can you get your friends numbeer to me?

Do I need to calibrate the needle? I have test blocks and still..I am scratching my head?
 
It sounds like you need a decent amount of training to do it right. :eek: I checked out a metallurgy book from the library as well as poking around online and the word that kept coming up more than any when it comes to testing is "training, training, training." Unfortunately seems like a lot of user error could be built into these things. It'd be nicer if it was "push a button and let the robot do the rest..." Hopefully you figure it out. That's probably not a real nice toy to have sitting there doing nothing!
 
Brian,

You should call Grizzly and get a tech to help you through the first test and set up.
I visted a friend who had one and let's see if I can remember this set up.
* Correct diamond in the machine.
* Correct test block. Don't test on the engraved side.
* Place the test block on the clean surface of the lower table.
* Load the unit with the lever.
* On the dial from zero, raise the lower table with the test block touching the diamond. Raise the table, rotating the dials needle around three times back to the zero mark. Raising the table upward to the zero mark on the third rotation, don't fall short or go pass zero the third time. Or you will get an incorrect reading and need to reset the unit and move the test block a bit.
* Release the small knob which will release the weight.
* The dial needle should rotate and you should get a value close to the test block +/_.
* Then rotate the base down and move the test block.
* Retest if necessary.
Problems can occure with the unit. Low tempature effects operation, low oil will effect the unit, not being level is a no no.
 
That is the same unit I have, it is made in china, but I have found it to be very reliable once it has been checked with good tests blocks.

Be certain you have the "C" penetrater installed. Put one of your harder tests blocks under it. I found that the tests blocks that came with the unit are actually pretty good as well, to get you in the ball park, but a really good tests block helped me out with my doubts. The anvil in the photo at your link page is a very wide one. I preffer the one that is around 2" in diameter that came with my unit.

Place your test block under the penetrater, turn the bottom lift screw until it makes contact with the test piece and then keep turning while keeping A VERY CLOSE EYE ON THE LITTLE DIAL WITHIN YOUR MAIN DIAL- the one with the little red dot. When the little needle is over the little red dot and the big needle is close to the 12:00 position -stop!

You have now applied your initial load, turn the big dial of your indicator until the big needle, wherever it may be, lines up with the centered "zero" position. you are now ready to apply the primary load. Grab the side lever neares the front and pull forward. This will release the load and you will see the needle on the dial move as the penetrator goes into the steel. You will also see the back lever onthe side slowly move toward you, this is how you realease the load- when that lever is done moving toward you (wait for all motion to stop) then push that back lever back to its original position.

When you do this and the primary load is lifted, the dial needle will rotate until it reads your actual Rockwell number. That is it! :) You should have a reading.

Also be certain that your primairy load is 150kg for "C" scale, you adjust this with the round knob on the side, but above the others, it will have the numbers 100kg and 150kg written on it.

You can play with the works in the back of the unit all you want since it is nothing but weights and levers and a pneumatic piston, but DO NOT TRY TO ADJUST ANYTHING ON THAT DIAL, that is the only "super sensitive" part that I am very hesitant to mess with.

Forgive the all caps, I am trying to type this quickly and the bold function complicates matters. I have never payed any attention to that "denotes shouting" garbage, which always seems kind of juvenile to me. I Never intend for it to mean I am shouting at anybody ;) .
 
Sorry if I assumed you didn't have the basics with that last post, perhaps I should ask - what issues are you encountering in particular?

Since I have the same unit, you can call me if you like and I will try to walk you through it: 989-981-6780, but it will have to be before noon tomorrow as will be gone after that. I understand- I was quite excited myself when I got mine, but once I figured it out it sat in my basement for a while until I could prepare a good place for it.
 
You helped out alot Kevin....
maybe a nights sleep and some time away will help the operator. I just want getting the 62 block to read 62 and so on....

I'l try again after work and let you know more.
Thanks!!!! :thumbup:
 
On a side note, when you use a tester like one of these, do you have to test a flat section of the blade? If that's the case, if you are doing differential heat treating, how would you be able to determine the hardness of the hardened part of the knife if the hardened part doesn't extend into a ricasso, let's say?
 
I thought maybe the angle of the bevel on the blade could cause deflection that would screw the test up. These things sound damn sensitive... Once you get it figured out, what are you going to charge us when we send you blades to Rc test? :D
 
Sounds like a bargain. That includes you grinding the blade down past the indentation from the test, too, right? :p
 
Just funnin' Steve,
From what I have read the angle will make a difference but I was having problems with the flat blocks that came with the thing. Hopefully I'll figure it out tonight. Grizzly did say that I can return it or exchange it for another. There nice to deal with!!

I am going to try to put more machine oil in the piston and hope that works out the problem. Just glad There is a place like this to get help when you need it.
 
Try kicking it or whacking it with a stick. If it has dials and gauges and the like, tapping on them like on a watch seems to really help a lot, too! :D Is it plugged in? :confused: Make sure it's facing magnetic north, too.
 
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