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its a love hate thing. i love to carry it. but i dont like many of the features, BUT i still like it. i wouldnt let the con's get in the way. unless those con's are major in your point of view.
con's
-its too thick behind the edge, doesnt slice well. no big deal unless you need a slicer. tried slicing rubber tubing and it was horrible at that (but most knives of this size are going to be similar unless its like say a spyderco).
-thumb stud is not functional, it will make your fingers sore deploying. most annoying thing about the knife. once it wears in it will get easier, but still the sharp edges of the thumbstud are annoying, id rather have say a kershaw blur thumbstud style far better.
-backspacer is ugly revolver thing and aluminum, the wood screws are just screwed into it, so low tech annoying cheap.
-carbon fiber is not a full carbon composite. its carbon and micarta (blue) iirc. to me this means it was less expensive and not as strong as just carbonfiber (but this is nitpicking, the quality of the composite is very high).
-not thrilled with the GUN market design ques. this is the most upsetting. its a knife made for gun enthusiasts id say. that pisses me off. zt is a knife company. but they are targeting a different market with this one.
pro's
-action is great, you can finger flick after its worn in a bit. i prefer to finger flick rather than thumb flick, as my thumb gets red AF.
-grip is great.
-20cv steel is great, tho i havent used it much to say about its wear rate yet.
-fairly good in the pocket for being larger. good placement of the clip.
-its fairly light weight. the blade is the heavy part of the knife. but its not that unbalanced.
-high quality TI and CF/micarta.
mine came with what i would suggest is a weak detent or a detent hole too big for the detent. when its closed i can shake it lightly and it will chatter. the blade is loose. if i shake it a little more the blade whips out unsafely. some other folks also have this issue (epic snuggle bunny showed this on his just recently on his live yt video). not everyone is affected. im sure ZT would fix this, dunno tho.
im really subjective on knives. most of the knife community doesn't see eye to eye with me. im worse than nick shabazz. i wish more people listed con's about knives instead of saying they like everything. in this case, even the con's are not that bad. more of nitpicks.
These sell on the secondary market for pretty cheap. or at least almost every one ive seen was. i got mine below map pricing new. its definatly not worth Map pricing imho, but its an excellent knife that i still like to carry despite the cons.
I didn't mention the 0850 earlier because of the price, but if one can be found cheaply enough, I rather like it. Actually one of my recent favorites in my current random rotation. Like any other knife, it has its cons. But I don't find some of the things most mentioned as cons. Like the thumb stud. It get beat up pretty badly, but I find it both useful and appealing. Less harsh on my thumbs than the traditional "Devo hat" studs, but gets the job done.
I do wish the blade rode on bearings though. I know the point was to back away from the flipper/bearing craze. But I really like the feel of a nice, smooth, manual ball bearing action. Mine does not have any blade shake when closed. But could use a bit more detent strength. I've never had an accidental opening with this one fortunately, and hope I never do. I have had accidental pocket openings with my first and second ever ZT's, the 350 and 561. I'm actually lucky to not have any serious injuries from them. But I have a few pants pockets that were not so lucky.