Help with identifying Tomahawk

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crbnSteeladdict

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I think I need to create separate thread to reach bigger audience. Does anybody recognize the shape of this hawk and can help ID the maker? I appreciate any help. Thanks
The black head weights 18 ounces, and it length is 6 1/4 inches
 
It's obviously cast or drop forged, and may likely be from India.
There's a sight I think called Kentucky muzzle loader or something that carries lots of this stuff and you may find one on there if you can find the site of course.
 
crbnSteeladdict,

I can't help you with the larger "hawk", but I may be able to help you with the smaller one.
Please call me at (716) 676-5527.

Best Regards,

Paul Tsujimoto
V.P. of Engineering
Ontario Knife Company
 
Toooj said:
crbnSteeladdict,

I can't help you with the larger "hawk", but I may be able to help you with the smaller one.
Please call me at (716) 676-5527.

Best Regards,

Paul Tsujimoto
V.P. of Engineering
Ontario Knife Company
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In that case I will attach more picture of the smaller hawk
Its head weights 8 ounces and length is also 6 1/4
 
crbnSteeladdict,

Please call me. I'd just as soon discuss the hawk privately first. Then you can post publicly after if you like.
I'll be in office today (June6). But then out of office Thursday & Friday (June6&7). Back on Monday (June11).
Could be an interesting find you have there.

Best Regards,

Paul Tsujimoto
V.P. of Engineering
Ontario Knife Company
 
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I see some similarities to KA-BAR Tomahawk.
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/vintage-tomahawk-id.385951/#post-3534237
https://www.facebook.com/KABARKNIVES/photos/a.293988760618690.90159.195306703820230/1345517418799147
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-ka-bar-tomahawk-sheath-111532803

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Toooj said:
crbnSteeladdict,

Please call me. I'd just as soon discuss the hawk privately first. Then you can post publicly after if you like.
I'll be in office today (June6). But then out of office Thursday & Friday (June6&7). Back on Monday (June11).
Could be an interesting find you have there.

Best Regards,

Paul Tsujimoto
V.P. of Engineering
Ontario Knife Company
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Thank you Sir
I will try to reach you this afternoon
 
Freedom Pullo said:
I would also be interested in the history of that Tomahawk :)
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I would like to thank T Toooj and Mr Joseph Bradley from KA-BAR for invaluable help in my quest for more info regarding small tomahawk.
Even though I was advised about existence of Lewis Tomahawk and connection to KA-BAR, I made mistake and searched for Louis Tomahawk. http://fultonhistory.com/Newspaper 15/PortVille NY Review/PortVille NY Review 1948-1951/PortVille NY Review 1948-1951 - 0522.pdf
I was looking for pictures of KA-BAR tomahawk with a spike. Later on I widened my search and stumbled on pictures of
vintage-tomahawk_1_6e76fa981713e1cec70e7513c5397d15.jpg

From the description I realized my spelling mistake and search became easier.

vintage-throwing-tomahawk-lewis-mfg_1_841bcca0e4c5f279fff7500cde994dfa.jpg


https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-throwing-tomahawk-lewis-mfg-1903831668
I also have found:

balanced-throwing-tomahawk-vintage_1_183daf72b26691da5e50620cefc5368a.jpg

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/balanced-throwing-tomahawk-vintage-1787612315
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/steel-tomahawk-throwing-axe-lqqk-1819238678
I have not found any connection between Lewis Mfg Co/SHELDON-WELLS CO and Balanced Throwing Tomahawk
I think my hawk resemble the last one ... Not sure 100%: It is missing mark "Italy"
 
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crbSteeladdict,

Good research.
The KA-BAR Tomahawks forged by Wally Lewis were very rare. Mr. Lewis only made 33 "Hawks" for KA-BAR. But as Bernard Levine is want to remind us; "Rare does not necessarily mean valuable".
Lewis made a mix of Spike and hammer poll "Hawks" for KA-BAR. It seems Mr. Lewis had some financial difficulties. He sold the "company" and sadly committed suicide.
Your Hawk maybe one made by Shelton-Wells as there seems to be less finishing on yours as opposed to the highly rounded and finished KA-BAR models. However, the pattern outline seems to be exactly the same.
On a side note: West Clarksville is a small Burg (?) north of Portville, NY and 10 miles south of Cuba, NY (the town where I live). The pad of Lewis' forge shop is still present but the building is not. In addition to the forge, Lewis operated a general store named Windsor and Lewis. That store is still in existence. Now named Sloppy Joe's; it is a post office, restaurant, general store and meeting place for C&W jam sessions.
Hope all of this helps.

Best Regards,

Paul Tsujimoto
V.P. of Engineering
Ontario Knife Company
 
Toooj said:
crbSteeladdict,

Good research.
The KA-BAR Tomahawks forged by Wally Lewis were very rare. Mr. Lewis only made 33 "Hawks" for KA-BAR. But as Bernard Levine is want to remind us; "Rare does not necessarily mean valuable".
Lewis made a mix of Spike and hammer poll "Hawks" for KA-BAR. It seems Mr. Lewis had some financial difficulties. He sold the "company" and sadly committed suicide.
Your Hawk maybe one made by Shelton-Wells as there seems to be less finishing on yours as opposed to the highly rounded and finished KA-BAR models. However, the pattern outline seems to be exactly the same.
On a side note: West Clarksville is a small Burg (?) north of Portville, NY and 10 miles south of Cuba, NY (the town where I live). The pad of Lewis' forge shop is still present but the building is not. In addition to the forge, Lewis operated a general store named Windsor and Lewis. That store is still in existence. Now named Sloppy Joe's; it is a post office, restaurant, general store and meeting place for C&W jam sessions.
Hope all of this helps.

Best Regards,

Paul Tsujimoto
V.P. of Engineering
Ontario Knife Company
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Thank you for this additional info. The story of KA-BAR Tamahawk have just become juicier.
 
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