help with my oldtimer.

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I've found an old timer (small single blade carhartt edition) has corroded liners and a bent up Blade with the tip all fouled up and I'm wondering how would you guy recommend sending it to for a possible blade repair or maybe an upgrade (I'd love a really nice Damascus blade put in it maybe) and an overhaul of the liners to get them back to nice shape.

Also it says that the blade is 120T is that the quality of steel or a model# or something else?

Thanks for any ideas and help!
 
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It's really hard to get the bends to show since there are a few small bend points so it's sort of squiggly but just slight enough not to show but when sharpening and running my finger on the blade shows them clearly.

I was able to get a lot of the crude out of the liners but not fully.
 
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You could try q-tips and polishing paste. It won't straighten the blade but it should help get the crud out.
 
Thanks I did cut two qtips right down the center and it did pull most of y
the crud but some is probably an integral part of the knife now.

is it even possible to have a knife maker pull this apart and put a custom blade in it!
 
The blade steel is what made these cool, in my opinion. If you loose that, all you have is some grimy delrin and brass. is it not useable as is?
 
W.M.B. said:
The blade steel is what made these cool, in my opinion. If you loose that, all you have is some grimy delrin and brass. is it not useable as is?
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It is but I'm just not happy with it. If I could get it straightened I'd consider that too, but a slick Damascus blade would make me happy lol.

maybe I can sell it to someone that will appreciate it and put that money toward a small custom folder...

any clue what it might be worth? I've been able to get then gunk and grime out and cleaned it up so all that's left is the blade issue.
 
You can still find these brand new in the box on the big auction site. I would keep this one in your truck or car and pick up a brand new one if I really enjoyed the pattern that much. :)
 
I don't if much can be done, but I think member glennbad works on slipjoints.
 
I'd say DON'T WORRY at all, about the bend/curvature in the blade tip. I have a 108OT stockman (very tiny; see pics below) with the exact same issue. The thing that made these older Schrades so great, is the way they tempered their 1095 blades. Very, very springy temper, with hardness that's near-perfect for edge-holding. I'd briefly looked at gently 'bending' my blade tip to straighten it, but it just sprang right back. That springy temper is what will make it tougher and less prone to snapping the tip on a very thin & small blade. The little bit of warp in the tip is a small price to pay for that.

It's not worth possibly breaking the tip off the blade by attempting to straighten it by force; I'd leave it be. That knife looks great, in my opinion. :thumbup:

David
 
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I had a 34OT that had a blade that looked similar. I was actually able to get most of the bend out of it. You have to be really careful though when working on it. There seems to be a fine line between just right, and went a little to far....

There used to be a member here that did a lot of work on Schrades. I can't remember his name though, and don't even know if he is still a member.
As others have mentioned, nice pre-owned versions can still be found very inexpensively.
 
I had a 94OT with a slightly bent tip. Tried to straighten it out, ended up snapping the tip off. I reground it to something more resembling a useful tip but I never use it any longer. That old Schrade carbon steel is some good stuff for cutting, though. Wish I had taken better care of that old knife over the years.
 
One way to correct the bend is carefully. :D You might be able to find someone to do it for you or you can do it with a couple pieces of wood. Take 2 pieces of wood and nail them together, then you want to secure that piece onto something like a table etc etc. Then sink the knife into the gap between the two pieces of wood and very very carefully bend the blade opposite of the curve against. Do it very slowly and carefully adding pressure, removing the knife, and checking the bend. You have to try to correct the bend by essentially bending it back. You might have to over travel the bend, or use short slight tweaks of pressure at different points of the blade to get it straight. However, ever bending something like this can result in a break so you run that risk, but I have been very successful in using this method. Using softer wood helps cushion things and helps the bend come out straight as opposed to just clamping it in a vice.

Good news is from the picture the bend doesnt look all that bad so you can either try to correct it via the method stated or just sharpen it up and use it as it. Either way it is a very cool blade. Hope this helps.
 
(...) "there are a few small bend points so it's sort of squiggly..."
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One thing to think about, regarding the bend(s) in the tip. If the bends look like they're the result of prying or over-stressing the blade tip during prior use (the above description sort of hints at that), the steel may already be weakened below it's factory temper. If so, all the more likely to break if attempting to straighten by bending the opposite way.

Some (actually, many) very thin blades will be warped straight from the factory, but those are issues of uneven grinding and/or uneven cooling from heat-treat/quench. They'll still be bent ('curved' is likely a better description), but will still likely have their designed temper, and still retain strength & toughness.

Some of the 'kinks' in the blade, if they're on or near the edge, can gradually be sharpened out over time, or at least minimized. Might take several sharpenings over a long span of time, but it's the safer way to deal with them.


David
 
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Its not bent much -so shouldn't take much bending back.
use some cut up leather belt as a cushion to protect the surfaces of the blade.
place blade down on hard "anvil" type thing eg top of vise closed,or a piece of very hard flat wood on a solid base (try the scrap bin at a joinery works- ask first).
using a small hammer tap gently a couple of times very gently like if it was your finger under there and you tapped it with a hammer it wouldn't hurt.
check and repeat if neccesary.
thats what I'd do anyway.
As jkulysses said these are still available for cheap on the net.
 
Shouldn't be hard to straighten that tip if you want to chance breaking it. Soft jaws in a vise and go slow and you *probably* won't, but don't play unless you're prepared to lose. Don't worry about the rest of the warpage. As was said, they're springy.

Not familiar with the carhartt edition but I've found 12OT's and other small Schrades easiest to find. The 12OT is my favorite watch pocket knife for weekends.
 
Something to consider is when closed, is the tip of the knife centered? I have a 194ot with a slight bend in it from the factory. The tip is dead center when in closed position so its there for a reason on this knife. If your tip is centered attempting to straighten the blade may well shift the tip towards one of the liners.
 
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