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mqqn said:
I am 2 hours from Chicago, Caleb. What city do you live near?

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And herein may be option 2 if you are in vicinity. I have been advised to do this gift through a licensed merchant as the legal burden of possesion falls upon said vendor. But the knife MUST be delivered to this individual. Legally I can not take part in a 3rd party transaction. Same as buying a kid a gun, a beer, a cigar. Plutoh is either old enough or he is not. I am contacting Tractor Supply of Illinois now but two hours could put him in another state which he failed to mention. I wait to hear how this falls into place. Already have found Tractor Supply stores that sell Benchmade. I can put a Griptilian on will-call in 15 minutes. Just need an address.
 
The Logical One said:
It's nice of you guys to try to help this kid out and everything, but you have to question yourself as to whether you should even be doing this. When I was growing up I didn't have much, and there were many things I wish I could have had. I was taught to never even borrow money as a kid, much less ask complete strangers to GIVE ME something. If this kid needed something that was a necessity... go ahead, but for a novelty item? Any upstanding person (kid or adult) would not be doing what he's doing IMO. Your generous act is going to backfire as the kid will grow up thinking that if he really wanted something he can just ask for it and he'll get it.

Plutoh - We all have our sob stories... you need to use the tragedies in your life to make you a better person, not using it to gain sympathy so that you can get something for free.
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I appreciate your observation most earnestly. Sometime ago (a lifetime ago) I took two 9 mm's in the face. I don't know why but here I am. (maybe just to pester Marcinek) Trust me when I say I am unworthy. Badge is somewhere in a drawer and I went back to the shop of my father in Colorado. Been there ever since. My hands are burned and scarred. I scare little ones when I go to church. Last Sept. the St Vrain flooded and washed the shop away. And last Thursday a certain 140 # cat killed my grandaughter"s rat terrier. We all got our stories. Some are sad, some not. Maybe this one could be Not.
I think this kid might be telling the truth. I hope he is. Story's easy to verify even if I wasn't who I am. Decedent records thru Coroners office easy to locate. Target should be listed as Son under Survivor. Due dilegence search will substantiate existing estate, family income, indemnity holdings, et al. But is all that ness for a hundred dollar knife? I've seen X Boxes in the Toys for Tot box at the Masons lodge. Marine reservists a lot more honorable than me take em up to Estes and pass em out to kids they never even met. This kid just wants a knife.
And if he turns out Bogus, vendor sends the knife back to me.
 
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I admire your generosity greykilt but he went about this the wrong way if you do send him a knife I hope he appreciates it.
 
Legion, for what it's worth, Greykilt is a good guy. He's obviously seen something in this kid that we have not.
 
Greykilt is most definitely a great guy no doubt about it. I've seen this kind of appeal before and I have tried to help people out more than once myself. Some times it's a good thing some times it's not. Whatever happens greykilt is on my good guy list.
 
I've followed this thread and I have to say:

@Greykilt, sir I am truly impressed with your willingness to be generous with this unknown person who, right off the bat, is caught lying about his stated age and then suddenly has to 'sign off' for several days. My take is that this is a scam and of course you're a wise man and this has occurred to you also. A one hundred dollar gesture is very generous of you, and I salute you. Regardless how this works out, you are clearly a man of character. Sorry to read of your own recent losses, and all best to you.

The lying-about-age thing plus his determined persistence despite ridicule plus his vagueness about his residence jurisdiction makes me concerned also that this may be some sort of bizarre 'sting' attempt trying to entrap someone, anyone from a knife Forum into shipping/supplying a 'deadly weapon' to a minor and/or a jurisdiction where it would be illegal. And he seems to have found a 'live one' and needs a time-out (to consult with someone else? to obtain someone else's identity to use for pickup?) to devise a way to entrap you despite your savvy precautions. Gun shop owners and gun forums see entrapment sting attempts all the time, and this whole unfolding scenario just strongly, strongly smells badly wrong to me.
Please be very careful, if you still feel led to pursue this any further at all.

Just my two cents, and offered with a strong sense that someone is trying to set you up here, and maybe for much more than the price of a knife.
 
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Tallahassee said:
I've followed this thread and I have to say:

@Greykilt, sir I am truly impressed with your willingness to be generous with this unknown person who, right off the bat, is caught lying about his stated age and then suddenly has to 'sign off' for several days. My take is that this is a scam and of course you're a wise man and this has occurred to you also. A one hundred dollar gesture is very generous of you, and I salute you. Regardless how this works out, you are clearly a man of character. Sorry to read of your own recent losses, and all best to you.

The lying-about-age thing plus his determined persistence despite ridicule plus his vagueness about his residence jurisdiction makes me concerned also that this may be some sort of bizarre 'sting' attempt trying to entrap someone, anyone from a knife Forum into shipping/supplying a 'deadly weapon' to a minor and/or a jurisdiction where it would be illegal. And he seems to have found a 'live one' and needs a time-out (to consult with someone else? to obtain someone else's identity to use for pickup?) to devise a way to entrap you despite your savvy precautions. Gun shop owners and gun forums see entrapment sting attempts all the time, and this whole unfolding scenario just strongly, strongly smells badly wrong to me.
Please be very careful, if you still feel led to pursue this any further at all.

Just my two cents, and offered with a strong sense that someone is trying to set you up here, and maybe for much more than the price of a knife.
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Excellent observations. Earlier I had requested Moderator intervention & this is exactly the thing some of fhe forum moderators have advised me about. Thus the pick up in the store mode. A 17 year old can buy a knife in an Illinois WalMart. That much is confirmed. I'm waiting on a bit more info re: eligibility. This may all yet pan out to nothing. The story thus far is Plutoh's nook works at Grandma's house but not Plutoh's house. Plutoh had to go home. And now the knife to be is in a holding pattern.
 
Another scenario is liability for any negative actions performed with said knife.
 
Yes, and liability for criminal acts committed with it indefinitely into the future. He may be much younger than 17.

Someone researched all his internet @email posts and posted the link back at the original thread. If you haven't already seen the link, he is constantly begging strangers for free high-dollar knives to be sent him by spamming youTube review comments sections, etc. He claims to already have some decent knives, a Kershaw and something else (CRK?).

This just smells like pure con job. And maybe also mildly disturbed/brain damaged/maladjusted/crazy.
At minimum he's a serial online beggar looking to exploit strangers. At worst he may be someone who really should not be gifted with what police will call a deadly weapon after he uses it on someone (grandma?).

Unlimited possible bad consequences. And at best, a professional online beggar/liar gets rewarded and encouraged to continue, probably not for the first time.

My .02 cents. I'm sure a lot of good Scout groups near you would love a $100 gift certificate. Again, just my .02, with best wishes.
 
Hi Plutoh, glad you're back so soon. Welcome to BF. So what kind of knife did your uncle give you?

It would be a great idea right now for you to say thanks to Greykilt for all the trouble he's been going to on your behalf to try and get you a nice knife.
 
He's been asking for people to give him a knife in every post of his. I think he should be able to give 10 reasons why he wants it and why his legal guardian won't get he a knife or let him get one. By giving him a knife you may get him into some serious trouble at home.
 
I feel better because his uncle gave it to him, Greyklit treated him with extreme kindness and went thorough a lot of trouble but this way he won't get in trouble at home.
 
"........my uncle gave me a knife......"
This is what should have happened all along and a lesson well received by me, assuming that this too is not some fabrication merely posted to halt much of the investigation and research on young Caleb V that his involvement and subsequent requests for a free knife has generated. Either way and no ill will intended my involvement with this person has come to a close.:)

Hello All... At the very least this thread has brought out some wonderful suggestions as what really is the proper way to handle situations of giving and receiving on BF. This "Give Plutoh a Knife" topic is on several threads under several sub-forums and many folks showed their hearts and very good intentions towards this kid besides just me. The topic also opened the door to the question : 'Is it ethical or wise or prudent or even proper to send a knife in the mail to a minor?'
On the issue of Caleb himself; this is a classic case of internet addiction where one spends countless hours persuing a specific topic of interest, in this case High End Folding Knives, watching endless video clips, posting constant commentary' joining chat rooms dedicated to the target subject, and in all cases shamelessly, unabashedly, repetitively, asking for one from any and all concerned.
I noticed many posts from Caleb, aka Pass Hype, with expressions of enamored covetting. Things like:
"Soooooo lucky to have that...." "All I have is (lesser) Wish I had (greater)..." " your soooo lucky" et.al Typicly followed in almost every instance with a request or offer to trade. In the past week I have discovered over 160 internet posts under different pseudonyms that match this young ones profile to the letter.
Which this fact alone lends itself to the much deeper issue of the psychological state of mind of this person AND then the obvious dellima of 'arming' someone potentially sufferring from mild (to severe) mental illness with an edged weapon.
Currently I am giving a knife away on the w&c forum much as a direct result of the interchange between young Caleb and I. Please feel free to visit and enter. When the GAW is over I still will have the dilema of sending a knife in the mail to the winner possibly probably someone I do not personally know.
And this leads to a new thread addressing that very topic.
On a personal note.. a HUGE THANK YOU to all for the concern and suggestions on the proper way to handle something like this. There are a LOT of truly great folks on this forum!
Again, Thank You to All!
G....
 
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