HideAway Knife

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I have been carrying a HideAway Knife for a couple of weeks now.


Weight: 1.1 oz
Overall Length: 3-3/4"
Blade Length: 2"
Material: S30V

This clever design takes the finger-hole concept to a new level. It replaces the conventional grip entirely with a two-finger ring. While this does not allow you to apply quite as much leverage as a four-finger grip, it is also far more secure. The large ring permits an extremely fast draw and presentation. It also allows you to "wear" the knife while performing other tasks. You can fire a gun or even type without putting down the knife. And the whole thing is small enough to hide behind a playing card.

I chose the "Curvy" model, but the HideAway is available with several different blade shapes (including Wharncliffe and hawkbill) and in several materials. There is also a wide variety of sheath options, including some very unusual ones such as a badge-holder sheath and a bra sheath.

Each HideAway Knife is custom made based on a measurement of the user's hand. The CAD-generated and watercut blanks are shipped to professional knifemakers to be ground and finished. (There are some impressive names in that group.) You can specify who you want to work on your knife or you can take the luck of the draw if you want faster delivery.

Considering the custom work and quality materials (presently S30V or titanium) I think the prices are quite reasonable.

My experiences with my HideAway have been all good! It came beautifully finished and as sharp as any knife I've used. It fits my hand perfectly and has proven comfortable both to carry and use. (I'm carrying mine on my belt.)

I'm a big fan of recurves so the "Curvy" model was an obvious choice for me. This is a well-designed version of the concept. Even that short 2" blade allows me to use the various parts of the recurve for different tasks. The tip is fine enough for precise work, but seems plenty strong. And the high hollow grind cuts effortlessly. (Note that other grinds are also available.)

The grip provides fine control as well as more power than I expected. The bottom of the ring has an indentation that braces it against the ring finger and the top of the blade has an excellent thumb rest. The angle and length of the blade puts it just where your index finger would be if you extended it. This gives you instinctive control of both the edge and the point. You don't have to think about where this knife is or where it's going.

I have mostly used my HideAway for routine tasks, but I did try a few defensive drills with it. It handles much like a La Griffe. (I consider that a good thing!) The primary differences are that it allows you to do more with your hand without worrying about retention and that you have a better choice of blade shapes than with the non-custom La Griffe. Otherwise it has the same "part of your hand" feel and power that makes the La Griffe so effective.

The HideAway immediately became an EDC for me. It is small, light, comfortable, and very effective. What more could you ask? :)

Does anyone else have one of these? What do you think of yours? I'm surprised that there hasn't been more discussion of these around here.

--Bob Q
 
I watched the development of this knife on an old SelfDefenseForums thread, and got to participate a bit as well. I then ordered one from "FrontSight" and I have the Strider tiger stripe version. I like it, although I don't wear it in Ohio.

These are good knives and very functional for S-D purposes. They also could make convenient multipurpose blades as well. As mentioned, there are straight and Wharncliffe style blade shapes.

Karl
 
I've handled four or five HideAways from various makers, and have been impressed by them all.
I've had one on order for a couple months now, my first one broke in heat treat so I've had to wait a little longer, which is more than cool - it should be done soon though. :) Mine is to be a Joe Brum made Claw.
FrontSight and Joe have been really cool to deal with, lots of communication and updates, and both are nice folks.
If you like the La Griffe, or similar knives, do yourself a favor and look into getting a HideAway, great way to get a custom made knife, fitted to you, from one of several great makers, that will be an excellent defense tool, for a very economical price.
 
I'm getting one of these made too... it is a unique design that solves a variety of problems for me. Personally I ordered and favor the straight, it seems to be the most versatile model. All the models are good but my hands are too big for the Curvy and I like a good straight edge. I might order a "Claw" pattern later though.
 
Satin: I agree, FrontSight is a great person to deal with! Sorry that your order was delayed, but I'm sure the final result will be worth it. :D

Walking Man: I wondered about that too when I saw the pictures. Now that I have one to use I don't think they're really needed. With a conventional handle I use the forward/backward position of my thumb to help control the angle of a blade. The HideAway's ring lets the fingers do that. The thumb just provides downward pressure, which is easy because of the way the thumb ramp is shaped.

Did that make any sense? It's hard to describe ergonomics, but they're easy to feel. :)

--Bob Q
 
Originally posted by Walking Man
I think that thumb ridges would be very useful for this knife.

I handled a couple of Hideaways recently and they had thumb ridges. The knives are a really good concept and Frontsight is a joy to deal with.
 
Looks cool, but I personally wouldn't shoot a firearm, especially a pistol with it in my hand, unless im wearing some nomex tactical gloves. You could get a nasty cut from the recoil.

Aside from that, it looks like an excellent self-defense tool, and all around useful item!
 
I've handled a couple of Hideaway's and really dig the design!! Got one on order and it's getting clothed in Concealex, can't wait for it to get here. In addition to the hardware with the various live and trainer HAK's they also have a top-shelf training DVD done by SouthNarc, a real-deal warrior. Yep STUMP is right-on, FS is a great person to work with!!
Stay Safe,
Clyde
 
Hi Bquinlan,

This was the part I liked most about your review:
Originally posted by bquinlan
The angle and length of the blade puts it just where your index finger would be if you extended it. This gives you instinctive control of both the edge and the point. You don't have to think about where this knife is or where it's going.
I liked that part because I think that also but have never heard anyone else say it quite like that. That was one of my hopes in how it would turn out, because it's for those times when you can't think with razor precision about techniques.

Bquinlan showed remarkable restraint in not revealing who ground his knife. It was ground by a highly sought after "mystery maker" who exchanged HideAway finishing services for my CAD services. I have 8 total that I have been offering to folks whose HideAway size matches and who specify "any artist" in their reservation. I am telling the buyer but asking they keep it dark so that it can't get interpreted as a "collaboration" for contractual reasons. We are simply exchanging services. I'm working on an "Available now" part of my website to list these.

I've been waiting to post something here till I have inventory, but that hasn't happened till with these and some other extras (i.e., non-reserved) that I asked different makers to do. What I've done with extras up to this point is send an email out to folks who have a reservation for a different maker who is a size match, to see if they wanted the extra first. That has taken all my extras. Took a bunch of cool pics last night, and will post those later.


Hi Satin, I have an in-process pic of your knife from Joe before it went to Heat Treat. Also have some really cool heat treat pics of the knives after they came back from Paul Bos. The S30V takes some incredible heat treat colors.

Hi Clyde re: the DVD, I've had someone take the $ and run (change cell #, etc.) who was hired to do some special graphics for it. He put me off from Aug - Feb. Someone else (a Naval Academy type no less!) is coming to the rescue on that.

The things I'm most excited about these days are:

1) I'm really enjoying working with the folks I'm collaborating with as I make small improvements to the design. They are incredible men and just a joy to work with. Even when they are swearing at me because this knife is so difficult to grind. "Ya know FrontSight, most knives have a handle or *something* to hold on to..." This includes the folks here: http://www.hideawayknife.com/collab.php and also Rob Humelbaugh of Survival Sheath Systems whom I will be adding to that page once I snag a good graphic for him to put there.

2) How to add value to the knife without adding cost. I have been focused on defining a plug and play Small Sheath System and making small tweaks to the design. I spent a month over the summer working on a spec and sent it to Rob Humelbaugh who has morphed it into a great end result. This work was completed this month. The result is a HideAway belt sheath that can plug-and-play with multiple belt attachments.

3) A new knife deployment option that is in addition to all the existing options. I spec'd it, had a manufacturer create a prototype which proved the concept and made me laugh out loud as I tested it. I had that manufacturer make their minimum lot size of them (which was a lot :: ouch :: ), and it is now in Beta test with selected customers who have previously given me detailed feedback and who are now on the official HideAway Advisory Board. Based on Beta test so far, I want to make small changes to certain dimension ratios and change one material. But this is forcing me to find different manufacturers. Thanks to Ken Onion and Bill from Pittsburgh for giving me patent advice which I have done.

I figure since some people now have their 5'th HideAway I'd better come up with new deployment options. Read my faq http://www.hideawayknife.com/faq.php about the ordering process. The folks who have 5 are those who are the size that I overcut the most blanks from early on, and the folks who have been waiting a long time have either larger or a lot smaller hands who I didn't cut any blanks of soon enough. While I was typing this out, my waterjet man called me to say the S30V finally arrived! So I will do the nesting in MasterCAM this weekend and another waterjet cut of some individually sized blanks next week.

The way I coded that part of my ordering system is as follows: When it gets a certain # of orders which is enough to fill up 3/4's of the size of S30V sheet that I like to use on the waterjet machine because of stability, it sends me an email saying "Hey! order more steel!". Then when I know the exact dimensions of the sheet, I do the nesting and close out that batch which is 1/6 extras in a variety of sizes (so I can send these to different knifemakers.) This system would probably be better off at a knife company than for my smaller needs, but it is fun to get the emails.

Thanks for all the kind words, and thank you Bquinlan for your detailed and thoughtful review.

FrontSight
 
Good to see you here FrontSight! :D

What sizes do you have from your mystery maker?

Do your new pictures include anything of this new Small Sheath System? Will the newest HideAways still include a neck sheath?

Keep up the good work!
 
I was on Frontsite's website apprximately 1/2hr reading everything before I put an order it. Had to have one of these awesome and useful looking knives!

Now I just have to wait....not a good thing!
 
Originally posted by Steven Roos
I've got a Yurco Straight HideAway on order. I can't wait! :D


It will be a humdinger - I saw a box full of knives that Mickey showed me in Ohio and man, were they dynamite designs. Very well made, very high quality.
 
Originally posted by Steven Roos
Do your new pictures include anything of this new Small Sheath System? Will the newest HideAways still include a neck sheath?

I believe my HideAway shipped with the new small sheath system. Here's a picture of mine in its sheath configured for belt attachment using a Mini TekLok.

hideaway_curvy_sheathed.jpg


The basic small sheath component is designed to act as a neck sheath by itself. Other carry options can be attached to it as needed. Even the Mini TekLok can be attached at several different cants in addition to the usual four cardinal directions.

--Bob Q
 
Originally posted by bquinlan
I believe my HideAway shipped with the new small sheath system. Here's a picture of mine in its sheath configured for belt attachment using a Mini TekLok.

http://www.october.com/knives/bob/fixed/img/hideaway_curvy_sheathed.jpg

The basic small sheath component is designed to act as a neck sheath by itself. Other carry options can be attached to it as needed. Even the Mini TekLok can be attached at several different cants in addition to the usual four cardinal directions.

Awesome! Thanks for the picture.

Does that mean that an extra belt sheath in unneeded? Just add a tek-lok to the neck sheath and go?
 
Ohhh....these knives are so cool!
Wish I could find a way to get one into Denmark, but I'd be in for a hefty fine if it was picked up by customs!
I am sure they could find a way to classify it as a pushdagger which is highly illegal here!
 
Originally posted by The Porcupine
Ohhh....these knives are so cool!
Wish I could find a way to get one into Denmark, but I'd be in for a hefty fine if it was picked up by customs!
I am sure they could find a way to classify it as a pushdagger which is highly illegal here!

No, no, no! It's a gardening tool, didn't you know that!?
 
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