HideAway Knife

[The Porcupine]

Steven,

Hehehe! Sure I do, but the "authorities" seem to think that my definitions of "tools" are slightly different from their own!

 

[Siga Siga]

Hey FS nice to see you around.

 

[Milu]

FrontSight!
What are you doing here?
You're supposed to be working on my Joe Brum HideAway Claw!!!

 

[bquinlan]

Originally posted by Steven Roos
Awesome! Thanks for the picture.

Does that mean that an extra belt sheath in unneeded? Just add a tek-lok to the neck sheath and go?

I'm glad that picture helped. Some things are a lot easier to see than to hear.

I'm hoping that FrontSight will jump in and correct me if I'm wrong about any of this...but I believe you can provide your own TekLok and have an instant belt sheath. Mine works with the Mini TekLok, but the standard arrangement is still being determined, so ask about which size of TekLok fits yours before you buy.

--Bob Q

 

[STUMP]

Originally posted by Enter
Looks cool, but I personally wouldn't shoot a firearm, especially a pistol with it in my hand, unless im wearing some nomex tactical gloves. You could get a nasty cut from the recoil.

Personally, I haven't found this to be a problem. Most of the situations that I have practiced for started with deploying the Hideaway and gaining some distance, then going for my firearm. So far, no problems with cutting myself. Many of the guys on my SWAT team have played with my Hideaway and have very favorable impressions. I know I am going to have to buy one for my partner to keep him from trying to steal mine.

Frontsight came up with a great product and works hard to continue to refine it. The Hideaway is the final option in personal defense, or maybe the only option available to some who can't carry other tools.

 

[frontsight]

Originally posted by Steven Roos
Will the newest HideAways still include a neck sheath?

Hi Stephen, Yes. All HideAways come with a neck sheath, aka a "bikini sheath". It is a minimalist sheath designed to have as small a form factor as possible.

Originally posted by Steven Roos
Do your new pictures include anything of this new Small Sheath System?

Here are a couple pics of a belt sheath attached to the Double-J belt clip.

The Double-J, when worn *without a belt* worked well on me as long as I put it *before* a belt loop on my jeans. The belt loop was needed for side-to-side stability during deployment. This is like my experience with a TekLok.


This is RPH's HideAway which he now has, but which I borrowed for these photos. Thanks RPH !

This is my roommate showing where the Photon ends out. If you wear a photon with it , it should be attached to the lanyard hole on the *underside* of your palm. That way, it gets positioned like that very easily with the right size HideAway.

Originally posted by Steven Roos
What sizes do you have from your mystery maker?

From the Mystery Maker I have a satin curvy flavor, like the one BQuinlan wrote the review of. It would fit people who are HideAway size 4.0-4.2 or a smidge less if you want to cord-wrap it. Also have a Hybrid (like a tanto with a recurve) that would fit size 4.4-4.7. Both are already sheathed with the new small sheath system (neck sheath) and already have a mini-tek-lok on them. Either would look bad-a*s with black-cord-wrap, because of the black-on-satin effect of the sheath and logo.

Originally posted by Drew66
I was on Frontsite's website apprximately 1/2hr reading everything before I put an order it. Had to have one of these awesome and useful looking knives!

Thanks Drew66 for reading! It's important to me that people understand the what and why behind the knife; almost more than if someone buys it, because each one is so darn much work!! Over the past 24 hours I've edited dozens of AutoCAD files for new sizes and used MasterCAM to do the nesting, trying to be careful to not force the waterjet nozzle to take a path that is over anything that was just cut. Because a capsule hole that gets cut and then wedged up slightly could ruin the $700 jet head. For each knife, creating the toolpath is means setting parameters that include 7 mouse clicks on each already-Autocaded and copied-into-MasterCAM-nesting-file knife. Plus speed setting changes to slow down the jet on parts of the knife that require more precision. Checking the toolpath means following the green line across a simulated run on a sheet of steel on my computer screen. Even on a dual-Athlon system it takes a while to gen the toolpath, and the *.nc file is > 15,000 lines long! This is enough to make me need 2 excedrin. And all that is just the last step before waterjetting to create the Gcode that the waterjet machine understands. Before that, each Autocad file with any design changes has to be created for each size.

Originally posted by Boink
It will be a humdinger - I saw a box full of knives that Mickey showed me in Ohio and man, were they dynamite designs. Very well made, very high quality.

Thanks Boink! Mickey is an awesome maker.

Originally posted by Steven Roos
Does that mean that an extra belt sheath in unneeded?

No. You need to order a belt sheath for it to plug-and-play with the double-J and TekLok.

Originally posted by Steven Roos
No, no, no! It's a gardening tool, didn't you know that!?

My logo when shipping overseas is an Bansai Tree.

Originally posted by Siga Siga
Hey FS nice to see you around.

Hi VooDoo! Nice to see ya. What's up with that new alias?


FrontSight

 

[bquinlan]

Originally posted by frontsight
Bquinlan, maybe you should edit that reply to say something to that effect in case people don't read down here.

Probably a good idea. I just went back and edited my post to reflect that.

It sounds like this discussion has generated some new orders. I'm glad to see more people getting interested in your concept!

--Bob Q

 

[macarthu]

I have a quick question about the HideAway. Do all of the blade styles have a chisel grind, or is a v grind an option? I only ask because the chisel grind is the only thing I dislike about my wife's EKI LaGriffe, and a straight, claw or curvy hideaway with a v grind would seem a bit handier.

 

[bquinlan]

Originally posted by macarthu
Do all of the blade styles have a chisel grind, or is a v grind an option?

All of the HideAways made so far have been ground on both sides. There have been variations from flat to hollow, but all double-sided.

There isn't any reason why you couldn't get one with a single-sided chisel grind; it just hasn't been done yet.

One advantage of these being custom made is that you can request a particular grind or finish if you want.

--Bob Q

 

[macarthu]

That's good to know, I think I was thrown off by this photo.

 

[bquinlan]

Ah... The knives in that picture are unground blanks. They don't have edges on either side yet.

--Bob Q

 

[STUMP]

Originally posted by bquinlan
All of the HideAways made so far have been ground on both sides. There have been variations from flat to hollow, but all double-sided.

Well, this is kinda true. I have the only chisel ground Hideaway in existence, by special request.

 

[bquinlan]

Thanks for the correction. Somebody needs to keep me honest.

--Bob Q

 

[frontsight]

Just received in the first batch of DLC hideaways since I saw the samples. Bodycote did an awesome job. They are black black black and very smooth. These were ground by Justin Gingrich of Ranger Knives.

This is the first time that I've been able to cut and finish enough to have HideAways that aren't reserved so that folks (who fit the sizes available) don't have to wait. The extras are in the HideAway claws and curvy's in various sizes, and small-sized straights. These are the straights that I was going to run the Christmas buy-your-spouse-a-HideAway special on for my previous customers, and then Rob Simonich died (darn him!) and I got all bummed out about that and never did.

Bodycote took the time to pack them in individual plastic things, and holy smokes did they ever put on this rather aromatic-smelling grease! It smells like those little vials of rifle grease with the yellow cap on them that I've bought at gun shows. It's gonna take me all morning just to take off all that off each knife! But the black black black looks just bada--.

A lot of people ask me how they compare in size to other backup knives, because it's difficult to tell from the pics of just the knife alone. Here are a couple other good backup knives that I have.

Another question I've heard often lately is which knife maker / designer influenced me the most. That would be Laci Szabo. Knives that come out of the side of your palm (like almost all knives do) didn't make much sense to me. I thought this was just because I was a newbie. But when I saw his designs also with the angled blade I became a lot more confident that the blade angled to better line up with a grip would be alright. Though it does cause my concubines (aka finishing artists) to swear at me as they are grinding my knife and burning their fingers to the nub .

FrontSight

 

[Cougar]

I, also, have one on order. Frontsight was incredible to deal with, always answering e-mail quickly and exhibiting great patience with questions...

However... Frontsight, it's not nice to tease those of us with the wrong size fingers with pictures! Thanks for your patience, but (muffled strangling sounds) regarding my impatience...

And, yes, this is my third first post...

 

[Peter Atwood]

Hi FS, those DLC ones are HOT!

 

[Nosmo]

Good to see you here frontsight.

I am patiently waiting for my Mickey Yurco in 4.63 size.

Its been about 3 months so far but seems like 3 years.

Waiting's so hard.....

 

[Steven Roos]

I can't wait for mine either!

 

[Jubei]

I need to stop hangin' around you guys on this forum...

I end up spendin' too much money. I just ordered a pair of HideAway knives.

I guess I shouldn't blame you though, it's my own fault. Kinda like the way I can be distracted by shiny objects.

Another visit to BFC and deeper in debt.

Jubei

 

[rawhide_clyde]

Those DLC Hideaways are smokin'!!! Very cool stuff!!
Stay Safe,
Clyde