High end knives need to work before leaving the shop

benchwarmer380 said:
Lol perhaps I didn't understand the OP as well as I originally thought. Thanks for the clarity. :thumbup:

So this thread really doesn't matter since no one on BladeForums ever wants to receive a knife that doesn't work out of the box. Should this have been a poll instead or do we all agree on this point?
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I agree that nobody wants to spend hard earned money for a highly respected makers knife that doesn't operate properly. :)
 
bigmark408 said:
The OP clearly states " deployment is flawless ".
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It does state that, but why the need to send it in?

I really do appreciate you bigmark for deciphering what knife dragon said but for some reason I just cant figure out what the hell is going on here. It is Saturday, maybe a different state of mind would help.

Hopefully the OP will come back in the morning and help us out a bit.
 
benchwarmer380 said:
It does state that, but why the need to send it in?

I really do appreciate you bigmark for deciphering what knife dragon said but for some reason I just cant figure out what the hell is going on here. It is Saturday, maybe a different state of mind would help.

Hopefully the OP will come back in the morning and help us out a bit.
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He meant it was flawless when using the thumb studs. He didn't say it flipped flawlessly.
I think a few got confused by that.
 
Ahhh, thanks Ken. That makes sense now.

I've had a variety of flippers come through my hands and own 2 at the moment. Some of the flippers I have used the studs worked well but most were adequate at best. I can't really fathom how the thumbstuds could work flawlessly yet the flipper not at all. As Scurvy said, it's really starting to sound like improper technique.

If I'm wrong and there is a possibility of a functional problem in this equation someone please enlighten me.
 
benchwarmer380 said:
I understood it fine but it wasn't a clear read. That is here nor there.

I agree as well that a custom knife should leave the shop in good working order. I'm not questioning that aspect at all.

I'm questioning if the seller made note of these issues before the sale was made. If they were, great on the seller for offering a refund even though the OP knew about the problems. If they were not disclosed, how can one blame the maker after it passed on to someone else's hands that deceived a seller?

If the OP bought this direct from the maker then these problems would lie 100% with the maker. Without knowledge of the seller or their listing then this is not exactly cut and dry.
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I GOT THE ANSWER FROM THE SELLER BECAUSE, i vented via a pm to him. From what i gather he and the maker have dealt with each other extensively. THe seller doesn't seem like a bullshitter imo. Yet, to play devil's advocate as you did; i could be wrong of course. The seller was adamant about making me happy. i had texted him to send a proper receipt, and the pictures w/spec info for the knife to add to the provenance of the knife. I will ask the seller to write something to basically state he made it & include relevant 411 etc.


p.s NOTE: caps mean i can't type nothing more:o
 
Hey Folks,
ok, a small update on the flipper situation.

1st. i saw this flipper deployed multiple times via other users with experience online before i chose the maker. big reason i chose His knives was because of how easy his knives all seemed to flip out easily without wrist action quite effortlessly too. I tried, i even watched some videos on how to open a flipper and the various ways to do it. 1st. you can't just press down on this flipper, you have to use a light switch motion or nothing is going to move at all.

i just watch some other videos of a nirk lock style flipper and dude used the same motion i have tried repeatedly. I was not going to screw this knife up and be forced to keep it. it's still as arrived to me. the maker told me "you can relieve some of the lock pressure by lifting the front of the lock bar, you need pressure to have it lock up, I hope this makes sence, keep fliping it and it will work for you I am sure, please enjoy your Nirk Tighe Coon."

now the whole truth is out. As for what I'm going to do about the knife, especially under the circumstances and the advice by the maker; it's going back to the seller.
My decision makes sense for me, and the situation. I'll get another flipper quite a bit more money, but i feel once i get it i'll be happy.

for all those who feel the knife is fine and it's user error you'll be able to buy the very pretty lady once it goes back to the maker. cost $775.00 I hope you enjoy it, and one day I'm sure somebody will.

Got an Email Letter conformation from Mr. Carlos Lopez letting me know when to send the knife back. He is the owner of Knife Treasures = http://knifetreasures.com/ dude has been nothing but a gentlemen in how he has dealt with me.
I put his website addy here because I'd say he was a good guy to deal with imho.

thx. for the support and understanding. i got a letter in the mail yesterday and if I'm forced to accept that letter my toy buying will come to a halt real quick. I think it will cause me to sell some of my small collection grrr! just when all is going fine for the 1st.time in over 10 years wham an unexpected snafu from the folks who are supposed to be on my side. damn i hate MARYLAND
 
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Not sure, the main problem was trying to decipher it all. It shouldn't take 4+ other posters to clarify a topic.

So apparently knife is going back to seller and all is well.
 
Why do you want to send it in? What's wrong with it? The only thing you say about the knife is that the deployment is flawless along with a thumbs up.
 
I did read it, but I couldn't find it, which is why I asked.

You mentioned a well known knife maker that had some flippers on a table that didn't flip, but suggested that you hadn't bought any of his knives yet. You also mentioned that it didn't function as intended, but what function? Since you mentioned that it deploys flawlessly, I don't understand.
 
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Next time, buy a Darrel Ralph custom. Problem solved.

:D
 
I know you're done with this thread, but for future reference, proof your posts more.
A lot of the confusion could have been avoided. Especially since you say all the information was there, but multiple users had trouble understanding you.
 
Well, we know the maker now. I don't think in the almost 11 years collecting I've ever seen a thread about one of his knives being bad. Next time, don't imply that the maker doesn't have good QC, K?
 
It doesn't surprise me that the OP bought a brand new knife on the secondary market. We often see people flipping a knife they just received because it had issues.

It's one thing if they are willing to take a loss and disclose the issue in their ad.

Instead, it's often the case that they will INCREASE the price on a hard-to-get item. And then forget to mention why they are selling.

Sadly, I've bought several items like this. Usually the seller responds by suggesting that I send my new purchase back to the manufacturer for warranty service.

Which, of course, is exactly what they should have done.

I have had a few sellers offer to take back the item. But you have to wonder why they didn't disclose thje problem in the first place. Did they think the buyer wouldn't notice?
 
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