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High end knives; pride of ownership or bragging rights?
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Your not necessarily a snob for owning a high end knife. It's running around and telling everyone how much it cost and how great it is that can be annoying! Buy what you like and don't worry what others think!
And there is nothing wrong with Rolex watches. They are quality timepieces and actually also considered pieces of jewelry. Your not just "payng for the name" when buying a Rolex (though I would never pay full retail), 95% of them are NOT fake, and it's very simple to tell a fake, just look at the second hand. A real Rolex has a sweep second hand.
I have a 25 year old stainless Rolex Air King that works great, and I would love a nice two tone Submariner, not because it's a Rolex, but because it's a great watch. And yes, there are plenty of other expensive watches out there and some cheaper ones too! I personally wear a Seiko chrono 90% of the time.
All watches keep the same time.....duh.....but all cars will drive you to the store too, some just do it with more "style" than the others!
Joe
And there is nothing wrong with Rolex watches. They are quality timepieces and actually also considered pieces of jewelry. Your not just "payng for the name" when buying a Rolex (though I would never pay full retail), 95% of them are NOT fake, and it's very simple to tell a fake, just look at the second hand. A real Rolex has a sweep second hand.
I have a 25 year old stainless Rolex Air King that works great, and I would love a nice two tone Submariner, not because it's a Rolex, but because it's a great watch. And yes, there are plenty of other expensive watches out there and some cheaper ones too! I personally wear a Seiko chrono 90% of the time.
All watches keep the same time.....duh.....but all cars will drive you to the store too, some just do it with more "style" than the others!
Joe
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Well, i guess im guilty for turning this thread into one involving watches, Rolex' in particular, but hey, whats done is done, so, id like to make a few more watch related comments.
First, While i do like to point out that watches can be had for considerably less $ than a Rolex that are nearly as well and finely made as a Rolex, Rolex does make a VERY fine watch, and does not merely have a "name" to offer, their watches are beautifully made, and youre paying for much more than just a name. And, dont forget the great resale value.
In any case, I have recently heard of a 1969 Hot Wheels pink "Beach Bomb" toy car that was purchased in that year for 66 cents, and recently sold for $70,000. Literally a DIMES worth of materials and labor sold for $70,000! When you keep that in mind, and you realize the incredible intracacy, quality and craftsmanship of a high-end auto watch like a Rolex, even at $4000, youre still getting a reasonable amount of return for your money. There is an AWFUL lot of time and material that goes into a well made auto watch. To think you can have 20 or 30 high-end watches for the price of what is, in reality, a 60 cent toy, it boggles the mind, and drives the point home that some people really do have too much money and time on their hands, and do not care about what they are actually getting in return for their money. Yes, the owner of the $70,000 Hot Wheels has exclusivity and sheer rarity, but thats about it, possessions like that lack style, aesthetics and substance, like a beautifully made watch or knife has. There just isnt anything to them other than sheer rarity, nothing of intrinsic or even plapable value. No skill or time required to craft them, no precious materials used in them, as i said, they are relatively sterile and possess rarity alone. Having said this, i actually do collect vintage Hot Wheels, but the ones i buy are in the $10-$50 range, i like them, but im not crazy enough to choose them over a beautifully made custom knife, or a high-end auto watch. 2 different things. I guess its the difference between things you own because you like to collect rare and interesting things, and things you possess and covet because you appreciate the skill and materials needed and used to make them. I guess occasionally, the 2 types merge into the same object, like a rare and collectable custom knife or watch.
One more comment, directed to the person who pointed out that Rolex is among a rare few who use an in-house movement. First, while its true that many mid-level companies use a modified Valjoux or ETA mvt, most of the true, top end houses use their own caliber mvt, and, i could be totally wrong, but, i have heard rumors that Rolex often uses Zenith mvts. with their own modifications. I dont know it thats true, im sure some research could determine its verity.
First, While i do like to point out that watches can be had for considerably less $ than a Rolex that are nearly as well and finely made as a Rolex, Rolex does make a VERY fine watch, and does not merely have a "name" to offer, their watches are beautifully made, and youre paying for much more than just a name. And, dont forget the great resale value.
In any case, I have recently heard of a 1969 Hot Wheels pink "Beach Bomb" toy car that was purchased in that year for 66 cents, and recently sold for $70,000. Literally a DIMES worth of materials and labor sold for $70,000! When you keep that in mind, and you realize the incredible intracacy, quality and craftsmanship of a high-end auto watch like a Rolex, even at $4000, youre still getting a reasonable amount of return for your money. There is an AWFUL lot of time and material that goes into a well made auto watch. To think you can have 20 or 30 high-end watches for the price of what is, in reality, a 60 cent toy, it boggles the mind, and drives the point home that some people really do have too much money and time on their hands, and do not care about what they are actually getting in return for their money. Yes, the owner of the $70,000 Hot Wheels has exclusivity and sheer rarity, but thats about it, possessions like that lack style, aesthetics and substance, like a beautifully made watch or knife has. There just isnt anything to them other than sheer rarity, nothing of intrinsic or even plapable value. No skill or time required to craft them, no precious materials used in them, as i said, they are relatively sterile and possess rarity alone. Having said this, i actually do collect vintage Hot Wheels, but the ones i buy are in the $10-$50 range, i like them, but im not crazy enough to choose them over a beautifully made custom knife, or a high-end auto watch. 2 different things. I guess its the difference between things you own because you like to collect rare and interesting things, and things you possess and covet because you appreciate the skill and materials needed and used to make them. I guess occasionally, the 2 types merge into the same object, like a rare and collectable custom knife or watch.
One more comment, directed to the person who pointed out that Rolex is among a rare few who use an in-house movement. First, while its true that many mid-level companies use a modified Valjoux or ETA mvt, most of the true, top end houses use their own caliber mvt, and, i could be totally wrong, but, i have heard rumors that Rolex often uses Zenith mvts. with their own modifications. I dont know it thats true, im sure some research could determine its verity.
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Hi Guys:
What a funny thread!!! Isn't price a relative thing???? My Dad bought Mom a ladies Rolex w/the diamond face----$15,000.00!!!!! It ends up being too heavy for her wrist!!!! She does NOT wear it much---and Dad feels hurt.
The meaning of the price is quite relative to the people involved. OFTEN it means better workmanship....and there is nothing wrong w/pricey things. AS LONG AS YOU OWN THEM---and they do NOT own you. As for me, I will keep my Bulova---and my Stamper w/that great Black Hills Gold!!!!! I have NEVER seen anybody's life made better by expensive things----and I know what I am talking about!!! Depends on your passion----we all need something. I get in trouble w/Ed all the time because I buy expensive dog treats!!! I spend lots---I DO NOT CARE...I love my dogs. KNIVES----we love them, so we ALL buy them. Where is the harm??? If folks do NOT understand, maybe they have NO PASSION in their lives!!!!
Just my 2 cents....thanks,
angie fowler
What a funny thread!!! Isn't price a relative thing???? My Dad bought Mom a ladies Rolex w/the diamond face----$15,000.00!!!!! It ends up being too heavy for her wrist!!!! She does NOT wear it much---and Dad feels hurt.
The meaning of the price is quite relative to the people involved. OFTEN it means better workmanship....and there is nothing wrong w/pricey things. AS LONG AS YOU OWN THEM---and they do NOT own you. As for me, I will keep my Bulova---and my Stamper w/that great Black Hills Gold!!!!! I have NEVER seen anybody's life made better by expensive things----and I know what I am talking about!!! Depends on your passion----we all need something. I get in trouble w/Ed all the time because I buy expensive dog treats!!! I spend lots---I DO NOT CARE...I love my dogs. KNIVES----we love them, so we ALL buy them. Where is the harm??? If folks do NOT understand, maybe they have NO PASSION in their lives!!!!
Just my 2 cents....thanks,
angie fowler
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I know my life would be better if I had an Ed Fowler knife!
Originally posted by Ed Fowler
Hi Guys:
What a funny thread!!! Isn't price a relative thing???? My Dad bought Mom a ladies Rolex w/the diamond face----$15,000.00!!!!! It ends up being too heavy for her wrist!!!! She does NOT wear it much---and Dad feels hurt.
The meaning of the price is quite relative to the people involved. OFTEN it means better workmanship....and there is nothing wrong w/pricey things. AS LONG AS YOU OWN THEM---and they do NOT own you. As for me, I will keep my Bulova---and my Stamper w/that great Black Hills Gold!!!!! I have NEVER seen anybody's life made better by expensive things----and I know what I am talking about!!! Depends on your passion----we all need something. I get in trouble w/Ed all the time because I buy expensive dog treats!!! I spend lots---I DO NOT CARE...I love my dogs. KNIVES----we love them, so we ALL buy them. Where is the harm??? If folks do NOT understand, maybe they have NO PASSION in their lives!!!!
Just my 2 cents....thanks,
angie fowler
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For a long time Rolex used a modified Zenith movement in the Daytona. This has now been changed to an in-house movement. All of the other watch movements are made in house.
I say this as a big fan of the Rolex Explorer familiy. The nice thing about these is if you wear a 1960's military version on a NATO strap you have a great well made watch and nobody gives it a second look!!
On the knife front I like well designed and constructed custom knives. Apart from the people around these parts, nobody I deal with on a daily basis has any idea what they cost - but they do ask me to cut things.
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Ed
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No brand-name mania from me, nor the desire to brag. I do enjoy using a higher-end knife that that bought by the majority of those who have no particular interest in knives, but I don't brag about it, just go about using it quietly, and sometimes notice that others take note.
My watch is another good example... $300 for one of the early Citizen solar watches (I've had it about 5 years now). This is a very plain and simple watch. There is nothing about it that screams $300 as compared to the $35 Casio's I've been wearing for over a decade. All its hi-tech is non-obvious, the real crystal face, the phosphors that really glow all night, and the quartz/electric movement that never needs a battery change!
My watch is another good example... $300 for one of the early Citizen solar watches (I've had it about 5 years now). This is a very plain and simple watch. There is nothing about it that screams $300 as compared to the $35 Casio's I've been wearing for over a decade. All its hi-tech is non-obvious, the real crystal face, the phosphors that really glow all night, and the quartz/electric movement that never needs a battery change!
yes cost analysis is completely relative to every different individual. When I started buying knives I was scared to pay $50, now my clunker is a Seby...........I have a dentist friend who regularly buys knives in excess of 3K.....sometimes a lot more.
His clunker is one of mine!!
His clunker is one of mine!!