Hinderer for a ship?

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Hello Blade Forum,

Before i get off, I am not a newbie here....... I forgot all my info to log back into my account; user, password, email, all of it. SO, New name & account!!

Carrying on, Im looking for a knife i can take with me when i deploy out to Bahrain. I was thinking a Hinderer 3.5 flipper because they are nicely built and can hold their snuff. I know it all depend on what i intend to do with it & this is why carry 2 blades for part of my EDC. 1 hefty and 1 smaller.

my only concerns is will a hinderer hold up to salt water climates or will i have to constantly maintanance it to keep it from pitting & rusting. I am not too familiar with CMP, Carpenter & the Duratech steels, so the more info the better.

If you have a better option let me know, especially if they are south paw friendly

thanks
 
I don't have any experience with actual Hinderers, but if I was going to use a knife in a salt water environment, a Spyderco with H1 steel would be my top choice. Absolutely nothing on the knife can rust and it's virtually maintenance free those environments.
 
tokerblue said:
I don't have any experience with actual Hinderers, but if I was going to use a knife in a salt water environment, a Spyderco with H1 steel would be my top choice. Absolutely nothing on the knife can rust and it's virtually maintenance free those environments.
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i really love the H1 steel, but i have had issues with it dulling much faster than many other steels. i will have some time to care for my tools so the closest thing to rust proof factor, thought awesome, is not needed.


should clarify, Is Hinderers steel in the similar ball park as, oh i don't know, S30V or 154??
 
I'm sure some of the aficionados here can give you better advice but... I've always carried cheap knives for SCUBA diving (in salt water on boats and along with underwater) that would be considered extremely rust-prone - but never had any rust simply by rinsing the knife in fresh water after a dive, patting it down, and then giving it a quick spray with Liquid Wrench. The CLP you'll likely have access to for your service weapon would likely work just as well. Just bringing it up because you'd probably be fine with any decent (and easily serviceable) knife you like. It's probably not worth dropping a lot of cash for something considered more rust resistant if you can spare a few seconds on occasion to keep it oiled. Just my humble opinion of course.
 
APilgrim said:
I'm sure some of the aficionados here can give you better advice but... I've always carried cheap knives for SCUBA diving (in salt water on boats and along with underwater) that would be considered extremely rust-prone - but never had any rust simply by rinsing the knife in fresh water after a dive, patting it down, and then giving it a quick spray with Liquid Wrench. The CLP you'll likely have access to for your service weapon would likely work just as well. Just bringing it up because you'd probably be fine with any decent (and easily serviceable) knife you like. It's probably not worth dropping a lot of cash for something considered more rust resistant if you can spare a few seconds on occasion to keep it oiled. Just my humble opinion of course.
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very true, basic cleaning will, in the most part, keep knives rust free. btw its also not at matter or worth but want. I like my shiny tools haha, as long as the work
olybears57 said:
CPM s35vn is very similar to s30v in all respects including corrosion resistance.
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great to know, was not aware. even tough looking at the name of the steel I should have been able to figure that one out :D
 
You could get one that is DLC coated. And like others said as long as you keep it oiled you'll be ok.
 
This is a great question and I too am interested in Duratech properties. Just picked up a 3" myself and was wondering if it would hold up in a salt water environment. I remember reading a few posts where some forumites used their xm-18 folders in lakes and swimming and never posted a problem. Not sure what specific steels they sported but they did note a quick clean fresh water rinse and dry did a nice job to care for it.

Will you be using the knife with any food prep also?
 
UrFrndlyNebrhoodS said:
This is a great question and I too am interested in Duratech properties. Just picked up a 3" myself and was wondering if it would hold up in a salt water environment. I remember reading a few posts where some forumites used their xm-18 folders in lakes and swimming and never posted a problem. Not sure what specific steels they sported but they did note a quick clean fresh water rinse and dry did a nice job to care for it.

Will you be using the knife with any food prep also?
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what kind did you get? flipper or non & how is it thus far??
 
I own an aquarium servicing company and work with saltwater all day every day. I've carried so many different folder (including an XM-18 3.5" and XM-24) and have not had rust issues with any of them. My D2 grip has seen a little rust but not enough to complain about. Just take care of it and it'll be fine. I have used all of my folders extensively in saltwater. Fully submerged to scrape pest anemones and such from rocks in saltwater tanks. Probably not the best tool for the job but I don't care.
 
Hinderer's in Duratech 20CV are the American steel equivalent of Bohler M390. They are extremely corrosion resistant.

Duratech 20CV, CTS-20CP and Bohler M390 are all the same steels but with minute differences in their chemical make-up.
 
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Yes, as stated above, basically insignificant differences. The common thread is they are 20% chromium! I know all the talk about what percentage of the chromium is tied up with other carbides and how much is free chromium etc. All that aside, 20% is VERY corrosion resistant.
 
Back in the day I spent a lot of time (4+ years) on a tin can, 2 deployments to the mid-east,the IO and to southeast asia. Also a one to S.A. and one, short, Blue nose cruise. Almost all of us carried Bucks, I'm pretty sure they were 110 lock blades. Never had any problems. Stay Safe & god bless
 
SirGeod said:
Hinderer's in Duratech 20CV are the American steel equivalent of Bohler M390. They are extremely corrosion resistant.

Duratech 20CV, CTS-20CP and Bohler M390 are all the same steels but with minute differences in their chemical make-up.
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CTS 204P, not 20cp. I think 20cp is equivalent to S90v.
 
I'm not a sailor, but I am an avid Hinderer fan. Like all steels s35v/20cv/cts-xhp will rust, but I've had no issues with mine xm in cts-xhp. It tends to get hot in the summers where I live, my Hinderer lives in my backpocket, and in the heat I tend to produce my own salt water that accumulates on the blade. Once I had a few super small specs of rust that cleaned up that night. I started treating my knives with aegis solutions EDCi and haven't seen any spots since then. I'm sure you'd be fine without treating so long as you do regular maintenance, but the EDCi makes it much easier. Cheers and stay safe.
 
uncleman said:
Back in the day I spent a lot of time (4+ years) on a tin can, 2 deployments to the mid-east,the IO and to southeast asia. Also a one to S.A. and one, short, Blue nose cruise. Almost all of us carried Bucks, I'm pretty sure they were 110 lock blades. Never had any problems. Stay Safe & god bless
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right on, I was thinking about bringing my 110. I use to use it on the fishing boat but when we went on deep sea trips the other fishermen/women got a little scared. not sure why. where you working for the shooner?
 
I been working on the water for 10 years here in San Diego, My ZT 0550 and 0560 hold up just fine around the salt water. I cut sea soaked lines all the time. Not a stain... BUT

I use EEZOX TO CLEAN AND PROTECT MY KNIVES.

Also I would go for a non flipper, and get a ZT0550, and pick up a micarta scale to add wet use grip. Dont get a really pricey blade when it is at risk to end up in Davey Jones locker.
My Pirate knife
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Notice the LOOP lanyard, so i can attach it with an caribiner to the lanyard rivited to my belt.
 
Heathen619 said:
I been working on the water for 10 years here in San Diego, My ZT 0550 and 0560 hold up just fine around the salt water. I cut sea soaked lines all the time. Not a stain... BUT

I use EEZOX TO CLEAN AND PROTECT MY KNIVES.

Also I would go for a non flipper, and get a ZT0550, and pick up a micarta scale to add wet use grip. Dont get a really pricey blade when it is at risk to end up in Davey Jones locker.
My Pirate knife
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Notice the LOOP lanyard, so i can attach it with an caribiner to the lanyard rivited to my belt.
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alright, cool very good to know & i do agree, Jones doent need another nice $$ knife of mine haha

why no flipper. personal choice or is there a good reason?
 
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