Hinderer gen 6 pivot system

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by quesoburgesa, Jan 28, 2020.

Which system do you prefer?

  1. Nylon

    3 vote(s)
  2. Phosphor bronze

    16 vote(s)
  3. Ball bearings

    17 vote(s)
  1. quesoburgesa


    Jul 29, 2019
    Do you prefer nylon, PB, or bearings? Why?
  2. rexromic

    rexromic Gold Member Gold Member

    May 28, 2011
    Bronze washers!
    Simple,reliable and easy to maintain.
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  3. KAEDC

    KAEDC Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 25, 2013
    I have kept mine of the bearings since my needs don't necessitate the strengths of washers. But I have had zero problems with the Teflon washers that my older Hinderers have. I think I might try to swap my Vintage Series XM-18 to PB since I think it's more appropriate.
  4. Mistman68

    Mistman68 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2019
    Most on bearings, I put one on Teflon, it works great for thumb stud use, less so as flipper which is what I was after. I put the bronze ones in and I couldn't open it one handed, just too tight so I didn't even bother trying with any of the others. I've tried replacing them on a 3" but both teflon and bronze were too tight for me.
  5. rpttrsn


    Nov 1, 2006
    I would prefer Bronze washers if they are done right. Bearings seem to operate smoother on flippers for me.
  6. Twinsdad

    Twinsdad Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 13, 2015
    I like both. Right now I have a mp-1 on Teflon and I love the way it closes. I also have a skinny 3.5 I just picked up and the bearings are definitely top notch and the gen 6 detent on mine is absolutely how a flipper detent should be imo.
  7. Therom


    Nov 13, 2013
    I run an washers on my HalfTrack Gen.2
    It is one of my best flippers and I don’t feel the need of the more « robust » pivot system on this size of knife

    i have had an XM-18 3.5 with the tri-way system and I have not been convinced
    It was intended to be a user but the action was good only on bearings and IMO not acceptable for the price I paid on the other systems

    Disclaimer: Please note that is only based on my experience on one particular model !

    I got a second hand non-flipper XM-18 gen.4 on PB washers and it is great

    i think my conclusion would be that the pivot system is good, but I am not a fan of the flipper on the XM-18 :)
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  8. sharp_edge

    sharp_edge Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 30, 2015
    I can echo. I also have a tri-way xm-18 that has great action with ball bearings but just so-so on PB washers. Maybe it needs more tuning IDK. Never tried teflon washers on it yet.
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  9. marrenmiller

    marrenmiller Basic Member Basic Member

    Apr 6, 2017
    That is my experience with the XM-18 tri-way system, too. I had three, and they only flipped worth a damn if you installed bearings, which feels contrary to the idea of owning a Hinderer in the first place.
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  10. abbazaba

    abbazaba Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 30, 2015
    The PB washers work better on some models than others. I stopped fiddling and just leave the bearings in, which are fine for my uses currently. Overall, I do prefer perfectly tuned PB washers when possible.
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