Hitting someone with a closed knife?

corwise

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I had a friend who got into a bar fight in Oklahoma, pulled his EDC and held it in his fist while punching someone. Never opened the blade, just wanted to give his punches a bit more force. It was a minor fight, everyone was tossed everyone out in 30 seconds and it was never reported to the police, but I was wondering if using a closed knife was still concidered assault with a deadly weapon or whatever the charge would be? Thanks.
 
...just wanted to give his punches a bit more force...

There's your answer. I know folks can get hit with a heavier charge using a roll of coins in the same way. Sounds pre-meditated and intentional...

my $.02

J-

legal disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.
 
in ca, this would be assault with a deadly weapon. and could be applied under 'metal knuckle' section. it would be akin to loading your punches with a roll of coins.
 
I'm lifting this from something I wrote sometime back:

Generally speaking in the United States whether you hit someone with a phone, the end of a closed knife, a beer bottle, or a stick picked up off the ground, one always faces the threat of being charged with Assault with a Dangerous or Deadly Weapon.

States vary as to what constitutes a deadly weapon for purposes of this crime. In some states bare hands and feet qualify. In others some object must be involved even if it’s just the shoe on the foot.

Section 210.0 of the Model Penal Code, as referenced in Black’s Law Dictionary, defines “deadly weapon” as “[a]ny firearm, or other weapon, device, instrument, material or substance, whether animate or inanimate, which in the manner it is used or is intended to be used is known to be capable of producing death or serious bodily injury.” (Black’s Law Dict. (6th ed. 1990) p. 398, col. 1.)

In California the courts have said that “a ‘deadly weapon’ is ‘any object, instrument, or weapon which is used in such a manner as to be capable of producing and likely to produce, death or great bodily injury.’ . . . ‘Some few objects, such as dirks and blackjacks, have been held to be deadly weapons as a matter of law; the ordinary use for which they are designed establishes their character as such. . . .’ Other objects, while not deadly per se, may be used, under certain circumstances, in a manner likely to produce death or great bodily injury. In determining whether an object not inherently deadly or dangerous is used as such, the trier of fact may consider the nature of the object, the manner in which it is used, and all other facts relevant to the issue.” (People v. Aguilar (1997) 16 Cal.4th 1023)

Usual disclaimer: This is just my personal opinion and is not intended as legal advice. Your mileage may vary.

Best regards,

Argyll
 
actually very sound advice and interpretation argyll.

likely to produce death or great bodily injury is the key phrase in california when applying pc245 (adw).
 
THAT was probably the best statement regarding the terms I have seen. Gee, who would have thought of consulting a law dictionary for the definitive answer rather than relying on street opinion?
 
In some states like Florida you can use a weapon to defend youself, the key word is defend
 
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