Hmmmmm......Shedua Segua Schmua Baba Lua?

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above are a couple of my Shedua 112's...I need to dig them out and get better pics of them...
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Flyer

Are the slats in the background Shedua? They would make great looking handle material as well.
 
Those are Mahogany...I have handled some knives with the wood from a chair from this set:)
 
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Thanks much, 300 and all.......

After looking at these threads and especially Scott Hartman's pics of the bottom edges.....I'm calling it Shedua.

Now I have to snag one with Micarta and I'll have enough knives and can retire.

:D
 
I don't have much experience with shedua, but I have handled a fair amount of macassar and other ebonies, both in finished articles and as raw wood. It doesn't look like macassar.
 
Thanks, Lambertiana.....We'll go with Shedua......I suppose now it merits a trip to the Spa, since it will be one of my rare knives.

:)

Couple things: First an information quote that 300Bucks had on the other thread.

BOTANICAL NAME: Guibourtia ehie of the family Leguminosae (Caesalpiniaceae ?)

COMMON NAMES: I have read that the name Shedua was coined by Paul Penberthy Sr. nearly 50 years ago when he first brought this species to the United States; why he felt the need to do that, I have no idea. Other common names include: amazakoue (ivory coast), amazaque, amazoue, anazahoue, and bar-tique, anokye, anokye (ghana), bubinga (although that name is really used almost exclusively for Guibourtia demeusei), ehie, gabon ovanko, hyedua, hyedua-nini, hyeduanini, kolima, mongoy, mongoy walnut, mozambique, mutenye, ovangkol, ovengkol, ovenkol, palissandro, pallisandro. It is sold in the USA primarily under the names shedua, mozambique, and ovengkol, and occasionally you might find it as amazakoue.

TYPE: hardwood.

COLOR: The heartwood has a wide range of colors from yellow-brown to dark brown or may be greenish brown / greenish gray, and often has stripes of a contrasting darker color, usually dark gray, near-black. Sometimes has an orange cast. The sapwood is yellow white, about 4 in. wide, clearly demarcated.

GRAIN / TEXTURE / FILLER / FINISH / LUSTER: Usually a really beautiful wood with a very attractive grain, a nice shimmer due to interlocked grain, and an interesting look because of heavy dark striping. Sometimes mottled. Texture is fine to medium (I have seen reports of moderately coarse but that has never been my experience). Paints, varnishes, stains and finishes very well, but anyone who paints or stains this wood should be shot. Polishes very well and can be brought to a medium to high luster. Some reports say it may stain in contact with ferous metal. Sometimes has whitish deposits in vessels.

PROPERTIES / WORKABILITY: A heavy, tough, strong, wood that is reasonably easy to work with both hand and machine tools (will saw a little slowly w/ hand saws). Stiffness, strength, and shock resistance are all reported as medium to high. Can be worked to a very smooth surface with only moderate blunting effect on cutting edges --- does sometimes have a light silica content and the interlocked grain can also cause minor difficulty. Glues, screws, and nails well with good holding power. Some reports recommend preboring. Does not carve easily, sands well and turns well (but keep your gouges sharp). For planing, a reduced cutting angle of 20 degrees and sharp cutting edges are recommended but the surface should come out clean. Moderate in characteristics for boring, mortising, and moulding.

Most reports say it is suitable for veneering but that it must be heated before slicing into veneers.

DURABILITY: highly resistant to the termites plaguing West Africa and is otherwise moderately durable. The sapwood is reported to absorb preservatives readily, but the heartwood is difficult to treat.

STABILITY: moderate movement in service, similar to red oak

BENDING: not recommended for steam bending

ODOR / TASTE: Freshly milled wood is reported to have a strong unpleasant odor which disappears after the wood is dried. There is no distinct taste.

SOURCES: found most often in rain forest and traditional forest areas in tropical west Africa, particularly the Ivory Coast, Ghana, Southern Nigeria and Gabon. Also found in Cameroon, Liberia, Equatorial Guinea, and Gabon.

USES: Used originally in the United States by the boating industry for cabin interiors, it is now being used in cabinetmaking, furniture, flooring, turning and other decorative applications, particularly where strength, beauty, and durability are all assets. In veneer form, shedua is used for architectural panels, doors, inlays and other quality fittings.

Other uses include: cutlery, decorative veneer, domestic flooring, doors, fine furniture, fittings, flooring, handles, high-class joinery, interior decorative fittings, joinery, musical instruments, paneling, paneling and bookshelves, plywood, sculpture, shop and office trim, shop fitting, tables, tool handles, turned items, turnery, veneer, woodware,

TREE: Reaches a height of 100 to 150 ft; boles straight, cylindrical, up to 70 ft in length, with trunk diameters 2 to 3 ft over buttresses that are occasionally well-developed. Old trees usually have narrow, slightly raised horizontal rings on the stems.

WEIGHT: 44 to 54 lbs/cu. ft.

DRYING: generally seasons rapidly and well, and is accompanied by little degrade, but thicker stock is reported to kiln-dry with difficulty, and requires care to avoid collapse.

Radial 5%
Tangential 9%
Volumetric 12%

AVAILABILITY: moderately available, especially in veneer form

COST: moderate

TOXICITY: none reported
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Shedua would no longer be used by Buck as it is a tropical hardwood, found in a country that exploited its forest resources to the point that concern for the species occurrs.

NOW IF EVERYONE VOTES TO CALL IT SEGUA WOOD, I will shut the heck up and call it Segua, its just my old forest ranger nature talk blood rising to the surface.....

300Bucks
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I enjoyed reading that.

Second, I noticed on that other thread that Haebbie never got an answer on his potential Shedua, but if he reads this he should compare the top and bottom edges with other 112s of the same vintage and if it's Shedua he will see a difference.

Last, I have a memory trick to remember to call it Shedua.

I'll just think of 110 Dave's famous Shed Juice.

:)
 
Thank you, BG, for the remembrance. ;)

I'll try to find out.

Here's the knife I told about.

Haebbie

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You're welcome and, Yes......I'd guess it IS Shedua and if you compare the top and bottom edges to Macassar 112s of about the same age you will see a difference in the grain when compared with Macassar.
 
Shedua on left.....note the different look. I checked against older knives with Macassar with the same result.

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After cleanup and a little brasso and oil.

No need for the Buck Spa.

I do like my first Shedua.

:)

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