Hodd ganza update

Epic HOG treachery! Between the 72 early e-mails that went to the back of the line and who knows how many piglets that didn't bother looking 'case they thought it was tonight, lot's of hoof print embedded backs and tusk wounds to go around!
 
72 early emails, that's great! Rules say those folks go to the end of the line, but what I've heard is that they actually aren't penalized if they re-send at the right time later. If they DO go to the end of the line, then that's 72 out of approximately 190 Ganzaa participants (by my crude count), which is about 25% more room at the front of the trough.
 
72 early! Wow, that is a lot to be put at the back of the line. We'll see. I may score yet.
 
How many total emails? :D And thanks Amy, I don't envy that part of the job. The rest? Well, maybe.
 
Well most of the 72 would have re-sent their emails after realizing their error, so maybe 10-20 go to the back.
 
Balislinger said:
72 early emails, that's great! Rules say those folks go to the end of the line, but what I've heard is that they actually aren't penalized if they re-send at the right time later. If they DO go to the end of the line, then that's 72 out of approximately 190 Ganzaa participants (by my crude count), which is about 25% more room at the front of the trough.
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Yea if you send it early...no problem...but if you do not send another one after the Go button...Big Problem:)
 
Amy---Tell Jerry, No chicken catching for you this weekend! He can use your substitute! :)
 
I wonder if the rules might need to be changed now that they're clarified? Everybody can just send an e-mail every 30 seconds or so until they notice the party is over. Guar-an-teed to get in that way! Prob'ly cause Amy-O to have a meltdown!

Normal Ganzaaa is what, 60 minutes? 120 emails from each person at 30 seconds per email.

Say 300 people send e-mails including stealth HOGS.

That's 36,000 e-mails for Amy to sort through.

What do you you think Amy?



Of course I only need one precision e-mail as always.
 
Mike Fitz said:
I wonder if the rules might need to be changed now that they're clarified? Everybody can just send an e-mail every 30 seconds or so until they notice the party is over. Guar-an-teed to get in that way! Prob'ly cause Amy-O to have a meltdown!

Normal Ganzaaa is what, 60 minutes? 120 emails from each person at 30 seconds per email.

Say 300 people send e-mails including stealth HOGS.

That's 36,000 e-mails for Amy to sort through.

What do you you think Amy?



Of course I only need one precision e-mail as always.
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I say the rules stay, they've worked in the past, I'm not worried!
 
Mike Fitz said:
I wonder if the rules might need to be changed now that they're clarified? Everybody can just send an e-mail every 30 seconds or so until they notice the party is over. Guar-an-teed to get in that way! Prob'ly cause Amy-O to have a meltdown!

Normal Ganzaaa is what, 60 minutes? 120 emails from each person at 30 seconds per email.

Say 300 people send e-mails including stealth HOGS.

That's 36,000 e-mails for Amy to sort through.

What do you you think Amy?

Of course I only need one precision e-mail as always.
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Geez....I guess that is job security:D
 
Balislinger said:
It settles question #2 for sure. Now we know that no matter what, 9:55 is a go, if you have not seen Jerry post before that for whatever reason. But I'm not sure question #1 has been definitively answered. Amy said that she sorts by the TIME they receive the email, AND, the order of emails in the inbox. Since my original question was whether they use timestamp OR inbox order, this doesn't exactly clear things up. IF her computer applies its own timestamp to incoming emails, then the timestamp and the order of emails should be the same. But that's a big IF. As I explained, a brief test of my own email inbox shows that timestamp does not correlate with inbox order.

So, I think we would need to know more about 1) How she combines the use of timestamp and inbox order, and 2) Run a test and see if her computer is applying its own timestamp to incoming emails, and/or if her inbox order also correlates to a steady forward progression of time in the timestamps.

I would recommend checking that (#2) not with the Ganzaa emails, but go back to a "normal" day that did not have so many emails coming in all at once, and see if timestamps over a run of emails are consistent with their inbox order. It helps to find emails that were sent close to each other in time, rather than further apart. Sometimes a difference of a minute or two, or heck, even a few seconds in a Ganzaa, can make a difference.

If it were me, I would use only inbox order and NOT timestamp at all. Inbox order is definitely a record of which emails got there first. I don't think the same can be said for timestamp, unless one is SURE that the timestamp is applied correctly by your own computer for each incoming email (not the case with my system, haven't tested others).
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Mike Fitz said:
I wonder if the rules might need to be changed now that they're clarified? Everybody can just send an e-mail every 30 seconds or so until they notice the party is over. Guar-an-teed to get in that way! Prob'ly cause Amy-O to have a meltdown!

Normal Ganzaaa is what, 60 minutes? 120 emails from each person at 30 seconds per email.

Say 300 people send e-mails including stealth HOGS.

That's 36,000 e-mails for Amy to sort through.

What do you you think Amy?



Of course I only need one precision e-mail as always.
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Holy crap, people. What is going on here? Are the new breed of HOGs all programmers and accountants and IRS auditors?

The emails are sorted as they are received in Amy's inbox, however she or her email application chooses to sort them. Period. And no one with any brain is going to send more than 4 or 5 emails, and he/she'd only do that because of getting burned by fake GO! threads. Pull the "email every 10 seconds trick," and you might never see INFI from the Shop again. What ever happened to common sense?

When I first started doing Ganzas not that long ago, there weren't rules you had to read with your lawyer beside you. No H.O.G. Commission was overseeing the enterprise to make sure that all the t's were crossed and the i's dotted. Instead, you got well hammered, had a good time with some sneaky bastids seeing who could burn whom, shot off one or two emails to Garth and said a prayer to the great HOG in the sky.

Then you waited. Weeks. Not days...weeks. It was sort of like waiting for Christmas as a kid. Eternity stretched out in front of you. Finally, when you thought it would never get here, you'd get an email saying you'd scored or you'd been trampled. Either way, no one really worried as much about time stamps or email applications or 10,000 emails sent in a half hour.

:grumpy:

Edited: Come to think of it, I'm not so sure you even got an email saying you'd been trampled back then. I always scored, but some folks might still be wondering if they're going to get a knife from the St. Patrick's Green Ganzaaaa of 2003. Poor bastids.
 
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Mike Fitz said:
I wonder if the rules might need to be changed now that they're clarified? Everybody can just send an e-mail every 30 seconds or so until they notice the party is over. Guar-an-teed to get in that way! Prob'ly cause Amy-O to have a meltdown!

Normal Ganzaaa is what, 60 minutes? 120 emails from each person at 30 seconds per email.

Say 300 people send e-mails including stealth HOGS.

That's 36,000 e-mails for Amy to sort through.

What do you you think Amy?



Of course I only need one precision e-mail as always.
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Here's the way they count your emails at Busse Combat..........


1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ......... NO INFI FOR YOU!!!!
 
Well said !! :thumbup:

Guyon said:
Holy crap, people. What is going on here? Are the new breed of HOGs all programmers and accountants and IRS auditors?

The emails are sorted as they are received in Amy's inbox, however she or her email application chooses to sort them. Period. And no one with any brain is going to send more than 4 or 5 emails, and he/she'd only do that because of getting burned by fake GO! threads. Pull the "email every 10 seconds trick," and you might never see INFI from the Shop again. What ever happened to common sense?

When I first started doing Ganzas not that long ago, there weren't rules you had to read with your lawyer beside you. No H.O.G. Commission was overseeing the enterprise to make sure that all the t's were crossed and the i's dotted. Instead, you got well hammered, had a good time with some sneaky bastids seeing who could burn whom, shot off one or two emails to Garth and said a prayer to the great HOG in the sky.

Then you waited. Weeks. Not days...weeks. It was sort of like waiting for Christmas as a kid. Eternity stretched out in front of you. Finally, when you thought it would never get here, you'd get an email saying you'd scored or you'd been trampled. Either way, no one really worried as much about time stamps or email applications or 10,000 emails sent in a half hour.

:grumpy:

Edited: Come to think of it, I'm not so sure you even got an email saying you'd been trampled back then. I always scored, but some folks might still be wondering if they're going to get a knife from the St. Patrick's Green Ganzaaaa of 2003. Poor bastids.
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my motto...

ONE EMAIL, ONE KILL :thumbup:

sometimes i miss but basically if you follow the rule it works



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Guyon said:
Holy crap, people. What is going on here? Are the new breed of HOGs all programmers and accountants and IRS auditors?

The emails are sorted as they are received in Amy's inbox, however she or her email application chooses to sort them. Period. And no one with any brain is going to send more than 4 or 5 emails, and he/she'd only do that because of getting burned by fake GO! threads. Pull the "email every 10 seconds trick," and you might never see INFI from the Shop again. What ever happened to common sense?

When I first started doing Ganzas not that long ago, there weren't rules you had to read with your lawyer beside you. No H.O.G. Commission was overseeing the enterprise to make sure that all the t's were crossed and the i's dotted. Instead, you got well hammered, had a good time with some sneaky bastids seeing who could burn whom, shot off one or two emails to Garth and said a prayer to the great HOG in the sky.

Then you waited. Weeks. Not days...weeks. It was sort of like waiting for Christmas as a kid. Eternity stretched out in front of you. Finally, when you thought it would never get here, you'd get an email saying you'd scored or you'd been trampled. Either way, no one really worried as much about time stamps or email applications or 10,000 emails sent in a half hour.

:grumpy:

Edited: Come to think of it, I'm not so sure you even got an email saying you'd been trampled back then. I always scored, but some folks might still be wondering if they're going to get a knife from the St. Patrick's Green Ganzaaaa of 2003. Poor bastids.
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Good post, but it ain't all of us.

Some of us have been through a 'ganza or few before.

I think the known limited number and the frenzy of the SFNO LE got some a bit....anxious. Anxious is the best polite word I could think of.

HOG-treachery got a bunch and now some are lamenting on it. Take them to the Tree of Woe. Others have realized they got trampled on and are healing their wounds.

I feel good on my bid but I may have had nerves severed in the stampede and just not felt the wound yet.

Sit and wait.

Rules gaming is no fun! I can't stand it at shooting contests and it's the same for a Ganza.

Relax, enjoy, and trust your HOG-fu. If one's HOG-fu was weak then consider it practice and experience.

No need for "lawyering" the established practice. Amy has spoken! :thumbup:
 
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