Honestly, I am bit bored and tired of all the blah, blah

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I haven’t posted here much, ever, mainly because I have too many other things going on in my life between my kids, my wife, my job, my house, my other hobbies and actually my knives. I will once again give it an attempt now that I have actually logged on (I usually just read without logging on).

So you might ask, what the hell does the title of this thread mean and why should we care what this guy is bored with or tired of.


First of – the title

I might be wrong, but I seem to recall a few short years ago when I first starting reading threads here that it was a lot about knives. Pictures of knives, makers ‘talking’ about their knives and showing them off, collectors showing us what they enjoy, talking about the next show, etc.

Now there seem to be almost as many threads about who said what, who annoyed whom, who should be allowed to say what, what is proper etiquette, etc, etc, etc, as there are threads about cool knives full of pictures, great WIP threads, makers enthusiastically asking about input on their latest design, etc.

I am bored with and tired of the former.

I come to this forum for something enjoyable. I see enough bull**** and politics in real life be it at work, on TV, in the paper or whatever venue you want to pick. But lately when I look into this forum, I see all these political (blah blah) threads here and I just start glossing over.

Maybe I am wrong, and there are still less of those annoying threads. Maybe it just seems like there are so many because they end up going on, and on, and on, for 7, 8, 9 pages. Maybe it’s because there seem to be so many repetitive threads about these same subjects.

People here now seem genuinely pissed at others because they disagree on the etiquette, the comments, the criticism.

Can’t we all just enjoy the knives and camaraderie that exists because of them?
I may sound like Rodney King (of “can’t we all just get along” fame), but I am not.
I don’t want us to get along for the sake of getting along, I want people to go back to enjoying this somewhat obscure hobby, job, way-of-life (pick your level of importance) that brings us to this forum – enjoy it together!
[Disclaimer – “obscure” because of its rarity in the general public – I for example don’t have a single friend who is interested in knives besides people I have met at shows or through this forum]

So I am saying – let’s go back to posting and seeing those pictures, discuss knives for their merit, talk about upcoming shows, review shows that are over, etc and get away from the politics that have crept up.

As for kumbaya versus brutal honesty – there is actually a real easy answer:
If you don’t want criticism, politely ask in your opening post that you don’t want to get battered – that will tell people to either post Kumbaya or nothing. I think it should be easy enough for people to respect the thread starter’s wishes.
If you do want it, say nothing and it may come your way, or ask for it specifically (if you want to make sure to get it).
How hard is that?


Second – why should you care what I think?

You shouldn’t, at least you don’t have to. To most here I am a nobody – never heard of me. I don’t have many posts.
However, I hope you do care about making this a fun place to visit, because that is what it is supposed to be – a virtual place to share something enjoyable.

As for me, I frankly don’t give a s**t if you care what I think. I am not looking for feedback to this post. If you want to give feedback, go for it. The intent of this thread is merely to state my opinion on what seems to have been happening around here and that I think it sucks. My intent is not for another drawn out political thread. In fact it’s the last thing I am interested in. Most likely I won’t even post again in this thread. I will however do my best to participate more in others’ threads – those about knives, not attitudes or politics.

Now back to those great WIP threads, picture threads, what do you think of my latest fighter/bowie/chute/hunter/etc. threads and so on.
…and I hope to see STeven in those threads.
 
I enjoy discussions as much as I enjoy seeing pictures of knives. Repeating the same topics over and over again can become a bit much though. Many threads start of discussing one thing and then drift back to topics that have been gone over time and time again.

Take this thread as an example. It is something to discuss/debate that is different than other topics that have come up recently. It offers people an opportunity to voice their opinions about the direction this subforum has taken lately. It is however not a thread about knives, pictures of knives, knife shows, etc, so is it blah, blah? Not in my opinion.

One thing that I do like is this forum being busy. It is great to come here and see lots of new threads every day. There have been many times when things around here got really boring. That has not been the case for me for quite awhile now.
 
We see lots of beautiful knives posted here and actual knife talk, but that's not all that keeps this forum busy and interesting. You take the rest out and all you have is another dull, boring knife forum. :thumbdn:

You know, the ones where you come back four, five times during the day and there's no new post. :yawn: Sure there's things we need to get rid of such as posting up maker's knives just for ridicule, but all said this is an exciting and interesting place.

Yep, life's not just pretty pictures and high 5s, sometimes it's prudent to address issues to insure things keep moving forward.

And yes, I have noticed a change over the last couple weeks at least for the most part.
 
Another thing, you are never forced to have to read the threads that you find boring and/or tiring. It's pretty easy to tell which ones will be of interest to you from their titles.
 
Another thing, you are never forced to have to read the threads that you find boring and/or tiring. It's pretty easy to tell which ones will be of interest to you from their titles.

That's what confuses me Keith. Some will post several times on a thread how much they dislike it.

If you don't like a magazine, do you read it?
 
ah, heck, here is another photo of another knife so we have some knife content -- yeah, I like knife content

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Thor - I completely agree. I also fondly recall when this was primarily a knife discussion forum. While some of the recent turbulent topics have been of value and raised issues that needed to be addressed, there has also been a fair bit of "beating a dead horse", to say the very least.

Murray - thanks for injecting some knife content.

Roger
 
well said, thor! :thumbup:

mr white, thanks a lot for the pictures here and in the other thread! do i see some bone on that handle? :cool:

best regards,
hans
 
Well said Thor!

I feel the forums have lost alot of what I found so appealing. I used to come here for camaraderie, a good old supportive back slap that mitigates that "crikey am I mad spending all that money on a knife", a secret haven where the echoes of my wifes "knowing" looks would fade away amongst the "Thats Stunning" , "WOW"'s, and "You Suck"'s!

Didn't really matter if the comments where skewed towards the "positive reinforcement" side of things rather than the "cruel to be kind" excuse for todays criticism's ..... there was a sincerity in the support and being part of the "custom knife world".

We all have different tastes thats what customs and handmades are all about - individualism and uniqueness. Every so often a truley magnificent knife would be posted and the threads would have 40+ replies .... and people just got that and understood - without the need for AA type disclosures and sphincter inspection!

Now the environment is competitive and more like a consumer magazine , telling every one what to buy and whats the best ...... and with consumer mag's it's usually the big advertisers who get the biggest pushes!

I probably won't post anymore of my pieces for a while, I don't want to read snide remarks or open critiques of handle, materials, makers status, construction methods ...... I know what some people think and have still bought or commissioned a piece irrespective of that. Why should I have a small bit of joy I have worked hard for dampened by some throwaway negativity made in the name of "coolness'!

All I want is a few friends and frequenters of the forum to stop by and say "Hey, I see why you bought it .... you love knives, so do I, and this one is a mighty fine example ....... thanks for being part of this small community and taking the time to make a post that I can enjoy, and letting me see a knife I may not have seen before." ....... of course that could just be shortened to to " Man that rocks!" or "cool knife"!

Unfortunately fewer people seem to be doing that now for fear of ridicule, and afew of the comments you get are really about the poster justifying why their collection is better, or a little "cognitive disonance" helping them to get over that fact they they don't own the knife!

Tell me I'm sensitive, tell me I'm gay, tell me I'm a big girl ...... but don't tell me what to buy with my own money or what you would change about my knife ......

KUMBY-frikkin-A!!!!!!!:D

Stephen
 
Some good comments, Thor. I agree with most of them (my post count is slightly higher and I still consider myself a 'newbie" given the astounding depth of expertise posessed by some members of this forum). Some of your complaints I share and are probably the main reason I have gone back to spending as much time on the watch forums as I used to spend here.

Good thread. This should make interesting reading in a day or so.
 
Thor I am- I completely understand where you are coming from. There have been way to many politics (IMO). I would also love to see pictures and discussion of.. knives! I have no interest in shattering egos here, but we need to get past the elitist attitudes and all come together to enjoy the beauty of custom knives.

All of us!

All of the regular posters here have pretty nice collections, I assume. I would love to see photos of the collected work, or the "safe queens". I really hope all the top regulars to this forum would start posting pics of work they enjoy, or own.

Dave Ellis's Saturday posts are a great example.. How bout the rest of us? Why dont we all start posting random pictures from out collection so that we can all enjoy this stuff.

How about we talk about more makers aswell. Be it more folder makers, or stock removal guys. I would just love to see us open out horizons.

This is not a negative post and I love being a part of this.. However I would really like to see more knives because that is why I signed up. I would love to see an on-going thread where people can continue to post pictures. However I think it might not be controversial enough to make 5-15 or even 25 pages.

Why not..
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At times,,,,,,,,, the best reply, is no reply.
 
Well said Thor!

I feel the forums have lost alot of what I found so appealing. I used to come here for camaraderie, a good old supportive back slap that mitigates that "crikey am I mad spending all that money on a knife", a secret haven where the echoes of my wifes "knowing" looks would fade away amongst the "Thats Stunning" , "WOW's", and "You Suck"'s!

Didn't really matter if the comments where skewed towards to the "positive reinforcement" side of things rather than the "cruel to be kind" excuse for todays criticism's ..... there was a sincerity in the support and being part of the "custom knife world".

We all have different tastes thats what customs and handmades are all about - individualism and uniqueness. Every so often a truley magnificent knife would be posted and the threads would have 40+ replies .... and people just got that and understood - without the need for AA type disclosures and sphincter inspection!

Now the environment is competitive and more like a consumer magazine , telling every one what to buy and whats the best ...... and with consumer mag's it's usually the big advertisers who get the biggest pushes!

I probably won't post anymore of my pieces for a while, I don't want to read snide remarks or open critiques of handle, materials, makers status, construction methods ...... I know what some people think and have still bought or commissioned a piece irrespective of that. Why should I have a small bit of joy I have worked hard for dampened by some throwaway negativity made in the name of "coolness'!

All I want is a few friends and frequenters of the forum to stop buy and say "Hey, I see why you bought it .... you love knives, so do I, and this one is a mighty fine example ....... thanks for being part of this small community and taking the time to make a post that I can enjoy, and letting me see a knife I may not have seen before." ....... of course that could just be shortened to to " Man that rocks!" or "cool knife"!

Unfortunately fewer people seem to be doing that now for fear of ridicule, and afew of the comments you get are really about the poster justifying why their collection is better, or a little "cognitive disonance" helping them to get over that fact they they don't own the knife!

Tell me I'm sensitive, tell me I'm gay, tell me I'm a big girl ...... but don't tell what to buy with my own money or what you would change about my knife ......

KUMBY-frikkin-A!!!!!!!:D

Stephen

Great post, Stephen... :thumbup:
 
Thor I Am put it so well, I guess all I can add is, "Some people need to grow up". Oh, and a pic of some customs!

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Thor and Stephen,
Those are great posts. This Forum used to be a place to go to share our mutual interest in knives. It seems to have become a place where a few self proclaimed experts have to show their superiority by putting down others. People collect what they like, let them enjoy what they collect.
Jim Treacy
 
I like the threads about collecting / selling, etc, but I feel we're repeating ourselves a lot recently.

More to the point, all those threads tend to drift to rather less than enlightning subjects. In particular, the tendency of some to admonish / querel in public in beyond me. I completely understand how people can rub each others the wrong way. I don't understand what people feel they gain by being so aggressive *in public*. This is a completely self destructive behavior.

STeven's decision to stay off the forum for a few weeks is proving very smart.
 
STeven's decision to stay off the forum for a few weeks is proving very smart.
That needed repeating.

I feel the forums have lost alot of what I found so appealing. I used to come here for camaraderie, a good old supportive back slap that mitigates that "crikey am I mad spending all that money on a knife", a secret haven where the echoes of my wifes "knowing" looks would fade away amongst the "Thats Stunning" , "WOW's", and "You Suck"'s!
It's a little long for a sig line, but oh yeah.

Well said Thor :D
 
Thor and Stephan,
Thank you for your great post(s). You have both stated quite clearly and eloquently what I hope are the thoughts of many others here on the Forum.
For me the Forum has -is becoming an exercise in group dynamics. A few voices clamoring to be heard above all the others.
I wonder how much all of this is related to Kevin Jones (very) recent decision to leave the Forum.

Paul
 
Thor, I agree quite a lot with what you said!

Stephen and Jon ---- Great posts! :) I agree!!!

I'm not sure what the post about STeven staying away being smart means, exactly...
 
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