HORIZONTAL VS VERTICAL blown gas forge?

OK, now what style burner do you use? I have noticed there are different kinds, Tim Zowada's, Darren Ellis', many different homebuilts. Is there really any difference?
 
Sam Salvati said:
I would say yes, there is pressure going on in the forge no matter how small, and the flames would tend to follow the path of least resisitance choosing to go out the bottom rather than the small open windows at the top.
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The reason that I ask is that I thought that Cliff Parker told me that he was using a Don Fogg desing forge with no bottom. As for heat escaping, how will this differ from a horizontal foge with 2 open ends? I was wondering how you supported anything in a vertical forge. The firebirck trick sounds good if the forge is "short" enough. I worry about droopy handles on big billets.
 
Huh, I guess that makes sense when you say it that way, would solve the flux problems messing up the bottom it seems!
 
jdm61 said:
The reason that I ask is that I thought that Cliff Parker told me that he was using a Don Fogg desing forge with no bottom. As for heat escaping, how will this differ from a horizontal foge with 2 open ends? I was wondering how you supported anything in a vertical forge. The firebirck trick sounds good if the forge is "short" enough. I worry about droopy handles on big billets.
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Cliff's has a bottom, we both built ours at about the same time, 8 or 9 years ago. Not a steel bottom but a piece of wool covered with cat litter or refractory, sitting on a steel table or fire bricks.

I have built and used both, I now only use a Vertical. I have watched Don Fogg HT a sword in a small vertical, 10/12". But the Fogg drum forge is best for heat treating swords.
 
I'll probably be building the drum forge, but will still also like to use the regular forge for HT as well (as random as it can be I know:)). It pains me to switch over to gas, but for reasons I will make clear as soon as they are clear to me I must switch atleast for a little while.
 
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