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yeah some of them are COYOTES , you know , if you wake up and they`re laying on your arm you`d knaw your arm off just to get away from them!

stockman which sharpening sytem do you reccomend? how do you make a strop? i have an el cheapo straight razor and i want to make it RAZOR sharp
 
Stockman,

Hog Call ..... ah, that brings back memories of many many Friday evenings at the Officer's Club at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego.... cheap beer, loud music, acres of interesting women.....

Cairns, aye..... I'll be chatting with you off-line !!!!

Cheers,

Carl
 
SIRGALANT - Sharpening system- Sharpmaker 204 - easy to use and gets very good shaving sharp results on most knives.
Strop - Walk up Barrack St the next time you go to Well. Surplus, on the left side of the road, heading towards the river before Murray st, their is a Leather shop. At the back of the shop, they sell lengths of plain leather for belt making. I use the 3" ( 8 cm ) wide leather, the strips will make 2 or 3 strops and cost $12. Go to Bunnings, buy a length of pine the same width as the leather, some contact glue and a block of green buffing compound, total spent at Bunnings about $20 - all up cost for 2 - 3 strops $32.00. Cut the leather and pine to the length you require ( I make mine about 2 foot long ) and glue the leather to the pine. Rub green compound onto the leather - Go Stropping. Below pic of one that I made.
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New Pig Hunter - Got your email - will chat some more about your trip.

Robbie - Fantastic knife, you are one talented dude. I am still keeping my eyes open to pick one up when one comes up for the right price. - sorry for going off topic
 
Stockman, nice collection of knives, great strop, and great advice on sharpening. :)

Thanks for the kind words, little talent though.

Robbie Roberson ;)

P.S. Notice our post count ? :eek: could this be a sign ? :D
 
since we're talking sharpening, here's a long thread on the topic:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286222

Inside the above thread I have a couple of posts, but of particular note is Post #54 of the thread, here are the words I wrote:
"Dan,

great info and insight, Thank You !!

As luck would have it, yesterday afternoon Mr FedEx brought me some green micro-fine compound (0.5 micron ??) so I staged another please-work-this-time-and-get-sharp experiment for the WWII Robeson.

I spray-glued a 10" long by 4" wide strip of leather (fuzzy side up) to a mouse pad, duct taped the pad to the workbench, and more-than-liberally applied compound to leather. Then using both hands on the knife handle and applying reasonable pressure I began what you might consider a power strop.

I played around like this for about 45 minutes, adding more compound at times.... at other times using a wire brush to clean off the leather and then reapply compound. Great fun !!
Final result: (apparently) not scary sharp but at least arm hair was being cut, but not in the mass quantities I'd hoped for.

What was Most Very Interesting: I then stropped a nothing-fancy cheapie folder for 120 seconds and it oh-so-easily harvested massive quantities of arm hair !!
So I grabbed a $2 super-cheap-piece-o-trash China-stainless-steel fishing knife and stropped it for 60 seconds.... and it too commenced the oh-to-easy harvesting.

Bottom Line # 1: Go Figure !! Makes no sense to me. The Robeson just doesn't seem to cut it (pun intended) and the cheapies become apparently dangerously sharp.
Are we talking blade angles here ??? Might the Robeson need to be re-profiled ?? Or is that detail unimportant when stropping ??

Bottom Line # 2: the Robeson is certainly sharp enough to use as my EveryDayDinnerKnife (EDDK), but it is just not "that" sharp. If nothing else the stropped edge sure is nice and shiny.
Oh, one more proof it is not "that" sharp: on the rubber mouse pad is a cloth covering. Using a sawing motion the Robeson would not cut the cloth. It cut the rubber easily enough, but not the cloth. By comparison my SOG Field Knife had no problem cutting through the cloth.

Plan Of Action: get busy using my new mousestrop setup and wail away on my SOG Tech I. I reckon that particular steel composition is capable of becoming scary sharp and will test that theory this very evening."
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then Post #66 has more info I wrote as I learned more:
"OK, more the Robeson and the SOG....

yesterday I posted:
-- Bottom Line # 1: Go Figure !! Makes no sense to me.
-- Plan Of Action: get busy..... on my SOG Tech I.

Well, I got busy on the SOG. I first spent 5 minutes running it back and forth on my sharpening steel. I could actually see and feel what I guess is the "wire edge." (translation: novice).
-- Then I cleaned the mousestrop, reapplied the green micro-stuff, and commenced to stropping. Heeding Pendentive's advice I raised the spine a bit higher to increase the blade angle.
-- It took about 15 minutes to wear away the "wire" and.... holy smokes, that thing is sharp !! I don't know if it qualifies as "scary" to you folks who actually know what you're doing, but it sure 'nuff scared me. I'm still smiling in satisfaction and utter amazement at the ease with which the hair was separated from the forearm.

Therefore, with nothing to lose, I grabbed the Robeson and wailed away on the sharpening steel for 5 minutes or so, then took it to task on the re-cleaned and re-green'ed mousestrop.
-- Within 5 minutes it too was scary sharp in this newly-defined way of looking at things.

When I walked in the house the wife spied the clear-cut patches on my arms and said, "You've been playin' with your knives again...." Weren't nothing for me to do but smile even larger.

What did I learn ?? Not sure, but I'm having fun trying to figure it all out. At least I've got a system that works better than the one I had before.

Cheers and Many Thanks to Dan !!

Carl
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I'm one of those guys that can't sharpen, but the leather-mousepad setup with green honing compound really does the job for me !!!!

Cheers,

Carl
 
ok , thanks for the tips guys . i also have a cold steel bolo machete i want to get shaving sharp.
 
Robbie,

Congratulations on your inventions well deserved success.;)
I hope your head still fits in your house.:D

After all this talk about the revolver I've decided that it's time to buy myself one. So here is a question for you. If you had to choose only one revolver model (and I mean only one) which in your expert opinion would it be?

I hope this question dosn't put you into a total state of hysteria (being only able to choose one), if it does I am terribly sorry.:D

Thanks,
Socintel
 
Socintel, thanks for the compliments, no, my head still fits... :rolleyes: this is an easy choice for me, the SOG Hunter Revolver. :D But you might want to consider a couple things.

The two knives I would suggest you choose from would be the SEAL Revolver or the Hunter Revolver.

The differences are these:

Hunter.... leather sheath, flat grind with gut hook blade (no serrations), with double cut bone/wood saw. Comes with satin finish, AUS-8 steel.

SEAL...... kydex sheath, hollow grind with clip point blade, double cut bone/wood saw. Comes with satin finish or TINI (black blade). AUS-8 steel.

The Hunter Revolver is my first pick for these reasons. It comes with a gut hook. I can use this for many other reasons other than what it is designed for, (removing game hide easily).

I use mine for opening fish bellies, cutting tarps or plastic sheeting, stripping small evergreen branches for bedding or padding to sit on, and cutting small cord or rope or vines without dulling the main cutting blade. And I am sure there are many more things you could use the gut hook for that I and others have not thought of.

The saw will cut limbs or poles for shelters, cut flat top tent pegs (for easy hammering) or rope anchors. The list could go on and on.

The SEAL Revolver will do all of the above, but does not have the gut hook.

You should also consider what kind of weather you might be using it in because of the sheaths provided. Leather is great, but you need to dry it out if it gets wet before storing your knife. This is all you need to worry about, it's not hard to just simply remove the knife if it gets wet for a day or so and let it dry before storing the knife. The kydex will do well in wet weather conditions, and only needs to dry for a few minutes.

The Hunter Revolver sheath has a drain hole as does the kydex, so both with drain water well.

Again, my over all choice is the Hunter because it seems to have a little more to offer to me.

Hope this helps, and yes it's hard to pick :eek: , all in all they both will make great knives for outdoor use.

If I can be of anymore help, feel free to email me anytime.
Thanks.

Here are some web sites that shows all the models I mentioned above.
http://www.1sks.com/store/sog-fixed-blade-knives.html

Hunter shown here, http://www.newgraham.com/sog.htm




Robbie Roberson ;)
Robbierob600@chartertn.net
 
Than hunter revolver it is,
I had been leaning towards the hunter and kinda guessed you would pick it.
I've got to agree the gut hook is a really good item to have on hand. Also because the blade shape is a drop point and not of a "seal" design I will still have an excuse to by the seal pup elite in the future.:D


p.s. I scrolled down to the link you provided to New Graham Knives and couldn't help but notice that both the hunter revolver AND the seal Revolver "TINI" are both sold out!:eek::eek:;)

Thanks for the advice,
Socintel
 
Hey Robbie,

Got another question. I was reading the article in The Daily Times on your revolver design and it was said that you made a prototype with a Deer Horn handle. Just out of curiosity, you dont by any chance still have it?
If you still have it do you think you could post us some pics?
 
Socintel, I did make several but family members quickly releived me of them :( ........one went to SOG, I think it may have ended up in a display somewhere.

I have been meaning to make some more, but since the Revolver came out I have just not had the time. Glad you ask about it though and glad you got to read the story, thanks for the link.

Robbie Roberson ;)
 
Hmmm, one went to sog. I wonder if chris@sog knows where it might be.:confused:
I would sure like to see a picture of one of these.

Chris,
If you have any information on where it may be please let us know.;)
 
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