How’s the Magnacut compare to 3V? And also apples. And booze.

Murphjd25 said:
Have Golden Delicious been mentioned yet? If not, you are all wrong!
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Golden Delicious apples are one of those apples where there can be a considerable disparity between what you get at the store versus what you experience right off the tree. Both Golden and Red Delicious apples are incredible in season and right off the tree but they can suck major nuts when grabbing from the store, especially the reds.
 
Gravelface said:
Is there a thread comparing the 2. Does one excel over the other in any certain aspect. I’ve got a lot of Nathan’s 3V but no Magnacut.

Just curious from Nathan the Machinist Nathan the Machinist and users perspectives of one over the other.

Or if this has been explained numerous times, maybe a link or video.

Much appreciated!!!
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I just want to mention that I got high hardness Magnacut on the Bradford Guardian 3.5 and they said it was 63-64 hrc. I found out today that the blade will chip at the slightest bump against concrete. And I mean barely scraping against it, being very very careful. And it chipped in 3 spots. And it was a light, light scraping. I wouldn't have thought the cheapest of steels would be damaged from what I did. I thought at most the cheapest knife steel you can get might have had a dull spot on that 2-3 cm contact point. I also noticed that it seemed to go dull almost as quickly as aus10a. I dont get it. I feel like I got a blade without any heat treat. But Bradford is supposed to be super great. They never reply to my emails either. The one time I called, he said he tried to email me back. But...I use Gmail. There's no reason emails wouldn't go through. I check every folder. But I get their ads in email. I just don't get it. I dont think I'll be adding any more Bradford's to my growing collection.

Now I don't know if it's Bradford or Magnacut that I can't trust. And I just bought a PM2 salt and am now concerned that I need to baby it. Although it's not HH(high hardness) so hopefully it'll stand up to more abuse than the Bradford HH Magnacut
 
The Knife Life said:
Good point! Thanks for the correction!
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Synov said:
Edge stability is essentially a combination of toughness and hardness. So it's not hard to see in Larrin's data:

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Z-tuff and CPM-1V have high hardness and toughness, and testing has indicated they have excellent edge stability for chopping wood.
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I think that's the old 3v rating. He did a new test and said the last one wasn't accurate. 3v showed much higher toughness after he tested it. The old results were someone else's results and not his own, I believe. He said their heat treat had to be off or something like that. I just watched that video within the last week and its almost 2026
 
Mystice said:
I just want to mention that I got high hardness Magnacut on the Bradford Guardian 3.5 and they said it was 63-64 hrc. I found out today that the blade will chip at the slightest bump against concrete. And I mean barely scraping against it, being very very careful. And it chipped in 3 spots. And it was a light, light scraping. I wouldn't have thought the cheapest of steels would be damaged from what I did. I thought at most the cheapest knife steel you can get might have had a dull spot on that 2-3 cm contact point. I also noticed that it seemed to go dull almost as quickly as aus10a. I dont get it. I feel like I got a blade without any heat treat. But Bradford is supposed to be super great. They never reply to my emails either. The one time I called, he said he tried to email me back. But...I use Gmail. There's no reason emails wouldn't go through. I check every folder. But I get their ads in email. I just don't get it. I dont think I'll be adding any more Bradford's to my growing collection.

Now I don't know if it's Bradford or Magnacut that I can't trust. And I just bought a PM2 salt and am now concerned that I need to baby it. Although it's not HH(high hardness) so hopefully it'll stand up to more abuse than the Bradford HH Magnacut
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You won't need to baby the spyderco. There's nothing wrong with magnacut.

It's possible that the apex of your edge was burnt. Lots of people don't understand if a knife is sharpened with a belt, it takes a split second to burn the edge and you won't know it, you won't feel it.

If it were me, I'd sharpen the chips out and test the new edge.
 
Magna cut is a tricky material for a lot of producers because of the low tempering temperatures. Especially if they're trying to have hardnesses that high.

Manufacturers overheating their edges while sharpening has always been a very common problem, but a low tempering temperature steel like Magna cut, it's going to be a major problem.

And yes, once you sharpen it a few times the severely burnt material will be removed, but the over-tempered material might go 1/16" of an inch up the blade. That's a lot of edge loss to get into the Rockwell hardness that you wanted.

And what's the point of a high hardness blade if the edge itself, the part that does the actual cutting, is soft.
 
Second follow up. Seeing as how apples were brought into the discussion, and seeing as how Louisiana has a couple distinct seasons. Summer, Hurricane, Eggnog , and Crawfish.

We are in the heart of eggnog. Well shopping at a local grocer...I was talked into a brand I'd never seen before. Bolthouse farms seasonal nog. I should have stood my ground. Planted my feet. Gone with my gut instinct. It was thin..... lacked the crucial word "egg" preceding the nog. But was convinced by a silver tongued employee. Promising I'd be back for more.


Fast forward. Get home toss in the fridge. Let it get to near 0° Celsius. Pour a glass of my seasonal Vice. And instantly wanted to find this employee and burn his car to the ground. Vile, watery, I'm not sure chickory or coffee .....I don't know what I drank. Had to
Brush my teeth and contemplated licking the south end of a northbound cow to get the taste out my mouth.


So, fine connoisseurs, what eggnog is the bees knees and where can it be found. So far. Traditional Southern Comfort tops the charts for me.
 
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